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2012 - The So Called 'End Times'
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Posted by StG, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 6:09:26 AM
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If Ron Paul becomes president,ends the US Fed and restores the Constitution,then it will the end times for monetary oppression.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 9:16:33 PM
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I'm not really sure what you are asking for in this discussion StG, but I will try to be 'adult' about it :)
I too was brought up with this 'second coming' belief drummed into me. It frightened me when I was younger, in that this second coming would involve some sort of violent end to all the 'sinners'. As kids, we were sent to confession at the Catholic church every week, where we were told to repent of our 'sins'. These included things like lying to mum or dad, or saying a swear word like 'bugger' etc. I truly believed I would go to hell with all the other sinners if Jesus came back again, because of these childhood 'sins'. After many years of watching and waiting for many new dates professed by different Christian groups to be THE DAY of the 'second coming', I finally realised that it was a load of rubbish. I'm not sure any more that anyone 'came' the first time.. Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 10:45:56 PM
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I hope with respect StG 2012 you will know is said to be the end times for far more than Christianity.
I too was told of the end times as you speak of them. Not sure why, but as a non believer I think man has some thing like that sol. Maybe a hidden part of our brain,that tells us story's to comfort us about death. Not sure. But I have no doubt some can see the future, most lie, profit from fools, but some have. If I was tasked with predicting this year, based on just what we see in the headlines. I would ignore end times it is not going to happen. But we are in for real trouble, war destruction, in the middle east, Ron Paul will not get even close to winning. Greece will crash. Middle east? years of propping up dictators , people not haveing any say. Have weakened the whole building. Now internal fighting, nothing to do with America, is running wild. We will have a bad year for unneeded deaths. We have much to concern us but not the end,yet. Who? ever? 200 years ago would think the Catholic Church could fail? It is a prediction from century's ago. Yet almost daily releases of story's of harm done, by members and servants of the Church, not mombo jumbo, threaten its existance As never before Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 4:15:09 AM
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Suse,
In my experience, any 'group' that demands obedience based on fear is on the wrong track. I distanced myself from my religion a long time ago which ironically pulled me closer to my 'faith'. My faith is based on the fundamentals of the teachings of Christ which is to respect you and others as I wish to be respected ... or treated, as the saying goes. I couldn't POSSIBLY do the prophecies justice in the space and time we have in this joint, but if you look at the prophecies versus global events right now, it's frightfully on track. People ARE looking at how we can function better as a species and also how we can function better as a community. This is what I mean by awareness. Belly, I reckon my comment to Suse about covers it for you too. Posted by StG, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 6:45:08 AM
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i was raised..into science..not religeon
my dad assured me..religeon was just exclusive/franchise..over materialisms..[the spiritual..perverted into flesh]... a way..to call-up higher authority...into the mundane so i dont really follow..this end-time thing is it a good jesus comming?..or the anti-christ? [to me they are the same thing..] cause..the christ never said for his own to do..*the oppisite..that he did] the delusion..of a just war..isnt..*loving other but here is the thing..jesus./.*isnt comming back but the thinking of him comming back..allows others to pervert any good intent..from the event thus i suspect..some might be planning ..a deciever..a faulse prince of pieces[war] [ok possably..allready have planned and deliverd it via the obomination's..of obama..murdering from the skies or via 7 seals] so im not spending..a lot of time..on the topic but others are... [cash for comment?] [the grinch..got 5 million for the 'invented people' comment] http://mondoweiss.net/2012/01/gingrich-get-5-million-for-saying-palestinians-are-invented-people-lord-why-am-i-so-cynical.html Former CIA counter-terrorism specialist Philip Giraldi gives a picture of.."What War With Iran..Might Look Like," http://www.bushstole04.com/iran/us_iran_clash.htm concluding that,.."A minor engagement between American and Iranian forces..in the Persian Gulf," will ignite World War III.....[so no doudt..its been planned..by the cia/mossad think-tanks at least] its all about perception...like Nazi Germany..was more “democratic”.. than America is..today. More than that,fascism, which I was taught to hate..as either..a form of socialism or corporate control.. was actually an almost ideal *economic system,..free trade,..greenie principles..workers rights,..[if your not a slave worker].. the media/propaganda... and over use of propheci...and other dark arts all saw standard of living continually raised,[for the elites]....plus never..any debt..and no need for police/state big business laws.... [yep our masters thought it..the golden age corporate profits soared,[heck germanic/japanese..war mongering multinationals still run the world... [how good that slave wage...work for prison...capitalist control system works..for usa/china/russia/north korea..even today What Hitler did..when he took office..was scare the living hell out of his enemies,...kill his opposition..conned the people [much like..obama..cia/mossad..and sky drones do today] RECALL JESUS SAID ''by their works...will ye know then""[them] ""mostly communists..and the international bankers that insisted..that Germany..keep its old..“debt based currency.”" with the same insisting..the same today its the demonic autocracy...a just war..on just/us http://www.bushstole04.com/monetarysystem/kill_democracy.htm everything old..becomes new again in time http://whatreallyhappened.com/ Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 7:24:48 AM
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It is said in the bible, a thousand years on earth is equivalent to a day in heaven. Right now is the dawn of the third millennia after the crucifixion of Christ.
I always had a philosophical with my old man about the timing. Taking for granted this stuff will come to pass - I know most here won't even contemplate this train of thought - dawn is around 6 hours into a day. Landing us at about 2250AD. Just saying.
The End Times Prophecies - like all theories, including scientific - come down to interpretation and generally accepted consensus on given information. Many say - including Hollywood - the world as we know will end in our destruction. But others, like myself, consider it more of a change in spiritual awareness. The ancient Egyptians believed it was an awareness thing too.
An adult discussion on the topic would be appreciated, but I acknowledge this will most likely become another tool of ridicule like many other threads.