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2012 - The So Called 'End Times'

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Anthonyv I respect your posts even on differing with them, find you an interesting person.
I contend Individuals [yes I understand Anthony, likes less crude conduct than mine sometimes is] in referring to the human race as Monkeys.
In habitually inferring I and other ALP supporters are lessor beings , deserves to reap what he so willingly sows.
OUG are you fair dinkum, so you think that but also your God ?
Raining so on the net looking at this subject.
Have we noticed, China following on from past colonial nations not alone most country's are playing this chess game.Using country's as pawns
This will be an interesting year if it is not the one a hard war starts can we think it will never happen.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 22 January 2012 4:35:54 PM
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Sorry went of a little Indy does that to me.
OUG
question bloke how did God get here, from what place, why can others not do it too.
I honestly miss read you posts first line,that is as much as I read the first time around.
Mate truly mans achievements are his alone including writing every holy book that ever existed.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 22 January 2012 4:41:22 PM
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One should have a little humility in making any historical predictions regarding end-times, the Chinese century or any event in the future. Two tremendous events of the twentieth century were WW1 and the long dark night resulting from Lenin's counterrevolution. There were very few who accurately predicted the cataclysm that WW1 turned out to be. WW2 was in a large sense a continuation of WW1 with an intermission. Marx predicted a Marxist takeover in the developed industrial countries. As it was Fascism was the preferred mode of tyranny in the developed countries with an authoritarian tradition, Marxism was the preferred mode of tyranny in the peasant countries with an authoritarian tradition and developed democratic countries successfully resisted both forms of tyranny. However, my point is that these massive events were not in general predicted, and the predictions being made in this thread for the future are probably no more accurate.
Posted by david f, Sunday, 22 January 2012 6:38:51 PM
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David f true but great differences exist in those predictions and the ones we speak of.
Countless thousands believe some substance exists in some predictions.
I found it hard that any religion got such a run in such a thread.
And until death, find and found, continuing denials by the very best Christians/ put any other creed here, of the other religions and Gods.
Leave Mysticism, out and prediction can be made, based on only perceived views based on current actions and events, that do come true .
Hence the stock market and futures exchange.
So I launch in to such thoughts .
The wars deaths currency problems in our face, in my view will lead to one or a few world government and tighter control for every one.
If not.
Armageddon may well be coming, for parts of the world.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 23 January 2012 4:45:23 AM
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true david..no one really knows..the little things
thus no-one..predicts..the bigger things

[noted this morning
that the..year of the dragon begins
[and its suposedly a super charged dragon...in a super cycle]
[more detail needed..of/course]

so ignoring..the things..that are fact
for the things..we can opinion on

Belly..quote..""how did God get here""

thats why words..are slippery..belly

see god isnt..*only there..[he is also here]

see omnipresent..means he is every where,
[meaning he cant 'just' be here..nor there..only everywhere..all at once]

but..look through the words...'here'
as loosly meaning here..[in this..[earthy]..material place]

well to be here..he needs a body..like we do..and
thus his 'here'...is in*..every living thing..anywhere

[where life is
god..is sustaining it..its life/living]

how he got 'here'..is by..first creating..'here'
[this he may have done...by saying the words..[as per gen 1]

or by other..as yet not found...science processlol
[much like..he MAY have..'evolved'..new genus[etc]in theory[lol]

thing is..we dont know
but i think..it was via a big bang

but there are infinite..big bangs...so
there must be..a big collapse..[before*..every new*..big bang]

[big bang changes time/space etc[materially]..and god being life...that spirit life lives on[eternally]in every place

regardless..of what we..[mater]..does

thus god..wasnt 'created'..nor
thusly..can he be destroyed

[just as life..in spirit..cant be destroyed[it being energy][spirit..contained..within its soul form..[according to what our..physical*'life form '..was

[or has since..[spiritually]..evolved into]

see..once we are gifted..*life
that life gift..lives on spiritually..*eternally

[even an aborted baby...[even an aborted blasto-disck
lives on...growing..as it develops[spiritually]..

EVEN..after its abortion..

the heaven/hell realm..isnt a place
isnt..*a material location...

it essentially..is gods holy living spirit
as made flesh..via the flesh

[the place..where
every life..springs from..and returns to]

god thus..cant come from..""from what place""
cause essentially..he is omnipresent..[with]..in..*every place/space

sustaining us ALL..our lives./..from with-in..[emmanuael],

""why can others..not do it too.""

well we actually can...but..as jesus has proved
our faith..is weak..[our mortal/validation..of this material reality
means we are so sure..this is real..

we cant do that..lol..im-possable
[against..the laws..of this material realm]..from within..our limited material minds

but..in the next life
we all*..can

[somehow actualy dying
but then..lol..finding ya not really dead..

well that
firms-up..our faith[lol]
Posted by one under god, Monday, 23 January 2012 9:17:08 AM
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firms up[solidifies]..makes real

""I honestly..miss read..your posts first line,
that is as much..as I read..the first time around."'

its ok belly..[no need for blame or guilt nor ex-plain/ation
or any of that negative stuff...

the questions need to be asked
and you dare to ask..

[the question
is more important..than the reply]

its your honesty..that keeps me replying
and keep on trying..to give the most..reason-able reply possable
[in lue of actual provable science proof..

cause science isnt about proof..its about prediction[lol][this specific process...means this specific result[science needs logic laws rules]

as much as the spirit
needs activity/passion/free-will

""Mate truly
mans achievements
are his alone""

wrong
at so many levels
sports people need coatches

need to know..teqniques/metghod..train
and get*..to the place..someone needs to measure their 'achievements'..etc etc]

political parties/unions..*ALL NEED MANY
even if only a few..get the cheese[by lying][head the beast

im writing..using words
words you didnt invent..nor me!

'al-one...'
[mate see the joke in that]..

ya ready
on..and in..your body..
live BILLIONS of other lives
from micro beasts[micro fauna]..to micro flora..bacterial virus worms ,lice etc etc

if every living bug
was removed..from our body
WE WOULD INSTANTLY DIE...by itself..we cant live!

look at life mate

basicly we are a stomach[a worm]
that has found ways to feed its gut
[and everything living in its gut]
by devolping a collective material brain/legs/habds
..nose mouth..fet sex oegans etc etc etc]

no mate..we arnt alone!
ever..

nor is god...who is egsactly like us
[just a worm..collecting togetherr..whatever god needs
to be god..[good]..

YES..every holy book..that ever existed...
was written by the hand of man

as filterd via his mind..with good and bad voices
each..adding in their little bit..they thought true holy true

but we can only *get..god's good
by filtering the words
to find the goodly[godly]

ahh men
so close..to being angels
but so loving to be being..just like demons

so highly evolved..yet so beastly in our animal natures
all natures belong to god

ok
i still the voice
with/in...[its non stop]
Posted by one under god, Monday, 23 January 2012 9:24:40 AM
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