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Climate talks bust, - parties agree to future

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If only the fools had of decided to build a few more dams. At least then they would be able to look back and find one sensible outcome. As it is they will continue to live in delusion while robbing the taxpayer.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:04:11 PM
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Will the bubble actually burst?

Judging by the expression on Christine Milne’s face at the conclusion of Durban, she has finally felt the baseball bat of reality, she has finally got it. The failure again, to reach anything other than an agreement to more gab feasts, after so many rounds with tens of thousands of warmers, the world has again said “what is it about NO you don’t understand?”

What really, really hurts Milne is the fact that she finally realizes that the real world has now created a “bubble of fantasy” for her and her useful idiots, in which she and the rest of the warmertariat can continue to exist without inflicting more harm upon the rest of society.

Other groups also signal their recognition of reality. The group that created the draft “Charter of Rights for Gaia” has essentially headed for a part of the bubble furthest removed from painful reality. They have collectively huddled together to suck on the corner of their comfort blanket and started to mumble incoherently. They will of course eventually require medication.

This bubble bears no resemblance to the real world of course, but it solves a number of problems. It insulates political sponsorship from the main body of the global warming phenomena and allows centre politicians to be the only survivors. It creates the illusion that politicians “really care”, publicly throwing crumbs of hope to the “bubble for the faithful” whilst allowing them to extract the remnants of declining voter support. It creates a place where the warmer advocates can live out their fantasies, but alas perhaps, not their careers and finally, it creates a single containment location where all those who can be blamed for the global warming scam can be easily found by the politicians when they perform their triple back flip with pike as they exit stage left and dump the movement.

All going nicely to plan.

Merry Christmas all and happy crumbling for 2012.
Posted by spindoc, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 12:07:12 PM
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China India and USA the three biggest emitters, are to make an agreement between them. Hopefully by 2015. The costs of solar are coming down, and there won't be any reason for every house not to have solar. The amount of sq meters on an industrial roof, has got to be prime real estate.
Posted by 579, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 1:27:50 PM
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Dear Spindoc,

I'm a bit more optimistic.

As far as the Conference went -
I feel that we all knew that getting an agreement
was not going to be easy.

Some people and governments see pollution
as a regrettable but inevitable by product of
desired economic development - "where there's smoke
there's jobs." Also the effects of pollution may
not show up for many years - severe environmental damage
can occur with little public awareness that it is
taking place - so why hurry to do something about it now.

Preventing or correcting pollution can be
costly, and technically complex. Which becomes
problematic for some.

However, in general, the most
industrialised nations are now actively trying to limit
the effects of pollution, but the populous less developed
societies are more concerned with economic growth, and tend
to see pollution as part of the price they have to pay for
it. Still, hopefully with the door still being left
open for further future plans - we can only hope that
something positive will eventuate.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 1:30:31 PM
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Don't be too optimistic, Lexi.

Canada has just announced it's pulling out of the Kyoto Protocol - first signatory to do so.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-13/canada-to-pull-out-of-kyoto-protocal/3728268

....and this is probably one of the major contributors to the decision. The largest single industrial pollution site in the world.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/03/canadian-oil-sands/essick-photography

On top of that, we now have former Prime Ministers launching "anti-warmist manuals" targeting school children.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-13/howard-lends-support-to-anti-climate-change-book/3727650

What a clever species (not)
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 3:23:48 PM
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Canada has pulled out of koto , it is into shale oil which usa needs.
Australia is a long way behind in renewables. USA is signing up a major renewable project each month. Victoria will have the largest wind farm in the southern hem; in 2013.
Posted by 579, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 3:56:55 PM
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