Dear RM,

Take it easy. An imperative point to remember is
to always know your topic. Personal experience in
the area is often helpful in making you sound
knowledgeable and sincere. Whether the topic is
politics, sport, television or stamp collecting make
sure you are informed - especially in the latest
developments. Using unreasonable generalisations
as you seem bent on doing makes you appear to be
arguing on an emotional level - not a mature,
intelligent one. Good, peaceful arguing can increase
one's self-esteem and public confidence. Whether
you encounter a disagreement at home, work, a pub,
or at a party remember to think before you speak.
No - one likes of supports an abusive, illogical or
weak debater. Argue to win.

Sorry, Raw, I disagree with the only real point I have sifted from your raving diatribe. Opposition should also exist for the public good, not just political purposes.

There is a responsibility on the part of an opposition to ensure the needs of the nation are met.

How is insisting on a solution that was a proven failure on its own, processing on Nauru, while stopping the Governmnet from implementing a humane alternative with a strong chance of success, in the national good?

In balancing wide-open borders versus a subjective view that Australia is getting a poor deal under the proposed Malaysian Solution, Mr A has come down on the side of leaving the borders wide-open. He voices concern over possible beatings and rapes in Malaysia to add ballast to his position, but this is obviously ingenuous when, in the same breath, he says he'll turn ricketty boat full of people back out to sea and disregard their rights under UN conventions.

I happen to think that Mr A's use of opposition powers is against the national good in relation to border protection and is being used for political purposes. I don't need a script as I have the faculties to be able to see this is obvious. Can't you, Raw?

She wins with easy as preferred Prime Minister.
Belly,
Of course, what else did you expect with the inmates in control of the asylum.
lexi,
I do understand. I understand that the future of Australia is not in your sights only the survival of a bureaucrat backing ALP.
Raw Mustard,
Sadly a rather apt description of our sparring partners.
I can't help thinking of the movie The Island when debating with ALP voters.

Luciferase,

I guess that by your lack answer that you are a strong supporter of the Malaysian solution, and that sending unaccompanied children to a country that is not a signatory to the UNHCR convention with no legal protections, that has one of the worst human rights records is OK with you.

Labor is in coalition with the greens and has enough votes in parliament and the senate to pass whatever legislation it wants.

The coalition has not said No it has agreed to Labors legislation with one amendment, and off shore processing could begin tomorrow.

Gentle men, I include Raw Mustard in my comments but not as a gentleman.
I want to highlight some truths.
Shadow Minister fits the child like description of me by the heated but lost RM.
He knowing uses Verbal Inexactitudes, to denigrate the Malaysian solution.
He is quite Intelligent and knows no flogging is by agreement to take place.
He too is repelled by left and greens, but quite willing to use them, as stones.
SM understands this has much more than an even chance, of stopping the boats.
Indy, again mate, you seem to look at the world from within an empty water tank turned up side down
Lexi, too sweet my good Friend, your niceness is not returned here and not of use it is seen by some as weakness.
Threads exist about online rudeness, well think about this, is pretending we are different online than in life a Worth while thing?
While some would never! say face to face what they do here! it is an expected out come of the freedom we have here, some are different, more aggressive here, I am not,
My words about Gillard being unloved but in front of Abbott are true.
I want both of them gone.
But consider the comments of Raw Mustard and Indy.
Truly look!
How could anyone think they are other than verbal Graffiti impulse posters who put little thought in to the comments.
That intrude with intent on good manners.

What Belly and the rest of Australia knows is that asylum seekers are not kept in one place and provided for but released into the community to fend for themselves. a diplomatic agreement is not going to protect children against xenophobic militia that prey on illegal immigrants, and a piece of paper saying they have the right to work is worth as much as Juliar's word.

Given the 800 quota for 4 years that was filled in 3 months, the Malaysian solution didn't have a snowball's chance in hell.

The pacific solution saw less boats in 5 years than Labor got in one week. Labor inherited 4 boat people in detention, what do we have now?