Hi AnthonyV,

It's hard to credit that your little exemplar about hard love not working, was only about the USA.
<<The fact is you cannot frighten people into behaving the way you want them to.... This has been shown IN MANY PLACES but the most detailed studies have been carried out in states in the US>>

But let's allow that your following sentence:
<< The increase in sreet crime is due to the increase in unwanted children growing to be teenagers who have felt unwanted and valueless since>>
Should have read:
<<The (consequent) increase in street crime in the USA was due to the increase in unwanted children growing to be teenagers who have felt unwanted and valueless since>>

And, just so I am clear, so I haven't misread your <<cause and effect>> scenario. Are you seriously proposing that
<<enlightened Women's Rights laws would have prevented the problem>>

Or, was this just a throw away line for the gallery?

Hi SPQR,
For future reference, is English your first language?
I only ask because you do seem to be struggling with it.
Cheers, Anthony
Http//:www.observationpoint.com.au

Hi AnthonyV,

<<is English your first language?>>

I might have asked you the same question!
Except, on refection, your issues appear to be much deeper than a simple matter of comprehension.

You seem to have great difficulties remembering what you wrote,only a short time ago.
And you seem to struggle when it comes to answering a couple questions.

Cheers

I flatly disagree with your assessments.
Antonyve,
Are you an academic ? you certainly sound like one. Believe one thing, there's no knee jerk reaction involved in my post . It's personal experience & it's not emotional either. Are you in favour of just doing nothing & continue the slide to anarchy ? We are on the slide to anarchy no matter how little you like the fact. The lot that has been in charge thus far is failing the decent citizen abysmally & I for one want to make Law & order an election issue both state & federal. It's been a proven fact that all those warm'n fuzzy academic statistics & studies which supposedly show a decrease in crime are just fairy tales. Go & spend time in a Court room & watch how the Magistrates let the little darlings off the hook because they're governed by an utterly irresponsible legal system. Let's pressure the parliamentarians in taking this issue serious. I just wish the media would come on board as well.

Individual, most of the politicians, in the upper house at least, are academics, so by your' reasoning will never change any laws about youth crime because they are 'do-gooders'!

As a 'do-badder', as someone suggested above, you must be very upset with all the people who do good in the world, academic or not?
It sounds to me like you would be more comfortable in Indonesia?

I think many of the posters on this thread seem to believe that all young people in today's society are a lost cause, because they are too spoiled and were brought up in 'institutions' (I'm assuming that means the dreaded child care centres?).

I don't know very many 'bad' juveniles actually.
I feel quite comfortable with the way this new generation is shaping up.
My parents and grandparents, on the other hand, told me they despaired about what the future held for my generation, as did their own parents.

It's called getting older, more intolerant and more grumpy as the years go by.
I think many posters on this site suffer from this problem...

suzeonline,
thanks for confirming the sad state we're in.