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Growth for Growths sake?

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A big stumbling block for system change in some countries is their constitution. Take USA It is going to be very hard to have significant change there, without say civil war, because their constitution allows them to do whatever they like, whenever they like. And the same for free enterprise. I do not think the word socialist would go down to well there. In AU we are much more constrained, saying we have certain laws, much to the better, and much easier to change. A mix of socialist and capitalism agenda is what we have, and is working well. Too far one way or the other is unproductive. If there were any country in the world at the moment to take control as a world govt; it would have to be AU. Every one else is riddled with debt, or has constitutional problems.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 20 November 2011 10:59:05 AM
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Just to show how much that saying;
"The price of freedom is perpetual vigilance".

Observe that the Italian and Greek governments have been removed and
replaced with unelected "technocrats" who would not know which end of
a soldering iron to hold !

They appear to have been taken over by a coalition of German and French
and EU Central banks.
A question I would have is any law they introduce legal ?
I suspect not, so how are they going to enforce them ?
Are we to see the Gestapo back ?
(With a different name of course)
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 20 November 2011 1:07:21 PM
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Dear Bazz,

I don't think the "Gestapo" will be back as you infer.

Were the previous governments all that great?
The current ones surely will do better. It's all very well
to get up on our high horses and criticise other governments -
but personally I feel that the days are long gone when we
had the genuine moral authority from which to preach to
others. Let us regain our own ground, take a fearless moral
inventory, do the work on ourselves that we still need to do.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 20 November 2011 2:19:25 PM
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Well Lexi, I was not criticising another government.
I was commenting on a putsch.

Hitler did well when he took over didn't he ?
However even Hitler was elected.
So, how about we pressure the big four banks to appoint people to
replace the PM, the treasurer, the finance minister, and the rest of
the cabinet, after all they could not do worse than Julia and her friends.

I can see that you would have to agree with that or is it only Greeks
and Italians who cannot be trusted to run their own affairs ?
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 20 November 2011 2:41:05 PM
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You are something else Bazz. Julia and cabinet could run the world, You are about the only one that says any difference. I recon you need a good dose of sunshine and get over your nightmares.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 20 November 2011 2:58:39 PM
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I have been raving on & on about a flat tax but as yet no-one's actually come back & stated serious positives/negatives about it. I for one can not think of a fairer & more productive way of getting our economy back up & running. By economy I am not talking so much about those who simply want to get richer. I'm talking about pension funds & corner stores & small operators. Backed by the much maligned but saving grace GST we should be able to keep going reasonably well. Foreign land ownership should be knocked on the head unless it's from a country which allows Australians to own property there. Just don't forget, Australia's economic woes are borne of greed not mismanagement by the people. Only Government authorities mismanage, it's their purpose. Ah & yes, get a non-military national Service off the ground asap. We don't need growth, we need to get some of the common sense back outlawed by Labour in the past decades.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 November 2011 3:31:31 PM
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