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Growth for Growths sake?
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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 November 2011 11:58:54 AM
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OUG,
You are a fool! Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:27:43 PM
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Division in the communities, can east ever live with west, without a war Religion has every thing to answer to. It is going to be a very long time before the east has any sort of liberalism, if ever. So with the shrinking world, and religious constraints being the norm in islamic countries, it is a hard ask to have a peaceful world. Years ago there were division between catholic and prodestant, that has mostly disintegrated now, in AU anyway. I think Iran would be far different if it was not for their president. With him at the helm i think there will be war, and not far away.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 19 November 2011 1:01:28 PM
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I MUST ignore the remark about biggest mouths.
But not before trying to get the message across, those with the smallest brain are a problem. a question. If today, every country, world wide, had become as productive as Israel. Who would need to buy the goods. Would growth continue. Bazz you must look in other directions, you march in to a blind alley. Self interest will never let smaller community's exist in the way you think. Isolation is an opportunity for bigger country's to eat smaller ones. You do know oil has been much higher. Driven by innovation, self interest, the back bone of Capitalism profit, we will never be with out fuel. RM not worth the effort, any answer will only be sneered at your only response. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 19 November 2011 6:22:12 PM
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Never mind Belly, there are many people like you who have yet to have
realised the implications. In fact a majority have yet to put it all together to their own satisfaction. Someone like you who has an enquiring mind will put it together much quicker than the majority. I have just watched some videos of the UK Parliamentary Peak Oil Group and they have devised a system like I suggested on OLO several years ago to enable fuel rationing by use of an updated Australia card. The idea being that when you buy petrol the servo swipes the card and your yearly ration is deducted by the amount you buy. The Parliamentary system is the same except they have designed to handle CO2 units and it is tied into their carbon system so that the user has a carbon ration as well. They are trying to get the UK government to adopt it. http://www.teqs.net/ Tradeable Energy Quotas Especially see the video with Jeremy Leggert. Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 19 November 2011 9:48:15 PM
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I started the thread after hearing about an up coming, or has it gone?
ABC TV show the speaker said, well can not quote him, but words to the effect we must soon Begin to understand, constant growth is not possible. In threads for ever year I have been here we have contributed to the same view, most of us. Population, Immigration, Food supply, Even fears about financial bust, have been at least in part bought back to some form of this subject. I long ago, woke to the fact a form of Capitalism is the only system we ever had that works. Communism, like Nazi, ism, was a way of delivering power to murderers. Tell me not of the good parts, they existed, but of the horror. Socialism, a far different thing, but it failed us all. Right now, the wise of us, will know we have a form of it here in Australia. Blended with Capitalism we have a balanced construction. It, in every way, reminds me,a Democratic Socialist once near it for ever, it struggles under the weight of those it helps the most, who fail to help them selves often. I doubt we are far from a time humanity will be forced to address growth. And to address what form our future system we live under will be. Europe warns, in My view a tougher form of help, an insistence some help them selves too, is in our future. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 20 November 2011 10:19:04 AM
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to do this i must refute your missconceptions
you talk about your own proofs
""i have trouble getting my cows..to go into calf during droughts.""
first its not you doing it
a cow can fall pregnant...often..but for only a day at a time
if the bull..isnt there..then no calf
so where was the bull?
looking for food?
did you supliment feeding..
[i favour sprouted grain..for its water content]
it really bulks out..and fat cattle breed...[unless you fatten them on gmo..which makes them sterile by 3 rd generation]
in short there are many factors
behind your presumptions
then note your adhomim conditions..""If a woman is on a poor
diet...*and..is breast feeding..she most likely"'
most likely...lol
at least if your going to condone genocide
make the indefinate more definative
""When good seasons come the people breed more
*or if we supplement their food intake.""
see..
are the bulls and the cows at the feed station
or wandering arrounf looking for a cool drink and a feed
""And yes, without contraception,
western countries would breed like rabbits.""
not if we all blog on line
and dont go out
kids dont want sex
they want computers
we will stop the critters from breeding
even if we need to kill 2/3..till we wake from our insanity
i do love you
live and let live?
were all in this to-get-her?