short jabs do not give me hope,
Belly,
they're not supposed to, they're to make people think more about the dire straits we're in.

Sterilization? of who, judged by who, why.

no, I'm not the one to judge that. I'm the one though who believes that if people don't want to to curb their excesses & demand that I keep paying for them then I reserve the right to deny paying. I consciously deprive myself of some excesses because I KNOW I can't afford them. Should I ask others to pay for what I can't afford ? Same goes for population. Give incentives to parents to have less children instead of helping them to breed more & constantly expect others to feed them. Unions are like that too. Always asking for more from others, never from themselves.

Indy you should try to put views and thoughts together that are inviting others to agree.
I challenge your use of unions as an insult, to me.
If I was a member of the chamber of commerce, RSL local bowling club.
And the fact I am a member of my NRL club, ham radio club,Labor party, these things are not evil.
They exist, for every one of us, in our chosen self interests.
A blind mouse thing exists here, supported by the right, but too by those most reliant on unions.
A view over looking multi, yes multi million dollar salary's,of big business men and women.
Paid for by us,the end user, a willing forgetfulness,that unions are not as bad.
I want to point this out to you,I see no crisis in this country.
Tony Abbott, look it up check on me,told ENGLAND Australia's financial position is good, and the envy of the world.
What position we are in.
Growth needs a look but first we must not retreat from truth to gain points of no importance,this thread trys to address world wide issue not a phantom Australian one.

Just a thought
In the Sydney Morning Herald this morning.
A new conservative Senator in his maiden speech.
Called for a big Australia, two new City's in the north.
Increased population, seems this, in his view fixes a problem, we are under populated.

Then if we did this, if we came back in say 200 years would the Australia of that day not find over population its problem?

Belly,
I have no intention of insulting you or anyone else for that matter. I like to point out serious flaws & if people choose to be insulted by the facts that they produce then it is their dilemma, not mine.
As for the unions being not as bad I take it you're talking in the past sense.
A conservative calling for two new cities in the North ? I can see the merit in that provided they're made up of existing citizens not new imports. It would certainly make living in the north cheaper than it is presently. Personally, I wouldn't like new cities rather build up & make the ones we have more efficient. My personal big favourite is the Bradfield scheme as this would really impact in a very positive situation all round. It would take the pressure off the coast & re-vitalise inland Australia in both climate & economic.

Individual I thank you for your advice you intend to insult no one.
As I still find no reason for sterilization, for a form of national service to contain rampart youth I am unable to see.
I am unsure what you want and why.
I am aware growth is called progress but fear it brings the very worst problems closer.
I could ask about the down side in growth.
Growth in debt, population, energy use/needs hansard has a full record of the senators speech, in my view he, unknowingly, calls for damage to us all.

I am aware growth is called progress but fear it brings the very worst problems closer.
Belly,
It's erroneously described as progress. I reality it is progressive regress & yes, economic D-day is inching closer.
1936 Germany was in a similar state & they found a brilliant way out of it. Tragically though, the fanatic elements hijacked what could have been a good thing for all & utterly ruined it & caused this incomprehensible misery.