We in fact have 5% unemployment.
For some it is a lifetime job, being on welfare.
Wealth creation leads to what, more poor it in the end stays with the one percent.
Is constant growth in personal wealth achievable? is it wanted.
Constant growth in the economy, who gos back so we go forward.
Germany's growth was somes failure.
Population growth endlessly?
Growth, there may be a better answer a sustainable one.

Those who depend on perpetual growth better learn new management practices. They'd better look at sustaining or even lower the present levels. We do not really need this growth, it's the greed mongers who push it for their personal interests & to our detriment. No point waffling on about not understanding business or investment or indeed anything to do with the money market. tell me you can manage with what you've got not with what you can do if you get more. Getting more is no challenge, making do with what you've got is. Take a good look at a Nasa pic of our Planet Earth & then think that it doesn't grow so what makes you think you can keep pushing this mindless growth agenda. It's gonna put us all into the crap pot. Show us your managing skills without growth & see how brilliant you are.

indivuall mate clearly you havnt heard of the expanding earth theory
[i think by neal adams]..

just google expanding earth at you tube

anyhow by watching the earths histry..back to when we were one land[gandwanna]..to the fractured earth we see today..you see continious growth..of the actual earth

via things like pole shifts..[and the next one is due in less than a year]..plus the bible says two thirds will die..unless we make excuse to end the sufferings[ie plan for it]

we know what plates will sink
what plates will arise from the depths
yet here we are arguing about govt debt..and govts obsessing to take ever more tax..and turn us into debt slaves..

killing off the teqnology
that dosnt rely on wind or solar
[seems the dust cloud of a poleshift
puts the whole globe into a year of darkness]

thus no solar./.[so why waste money on solar..
when [if]..we most need it..it dont work]

but even then..growth..isnt applicable to persons..[some live at huge expense to the globe..others live lightly on their footprint

the rule should be
the more you use..the more it costs you
not us mug taxpayers being taxed to death

I had other thoughts in mind than the threads direction.
Yes we can not grow forever.
Not the economy's not population nothing can grow endlessly.
But we know growth is what almost every one wants.
Growth in personal wealth, family, we want more,of almost every thing.
My inability to put in words my thoughts left us heading in every direction.
I am no word smith, my lurch in to welfare was an attempt to get thinkers producing ways to cut different forms of growth.
To introduce some sustainability in to our way of life.
Say housing, we race each other to build Mac Mansions, even planning to down size late in life?
But once wished to live out our life in one home.
My home was once a 1970,s business mans home 5 bedrooms, not now but I would be just as happy in at wo bedroom one.
I wounder, truly question, can we survive without growth.
Is there another way? yes but we have not yet considered it maybe invented it .

The only growth that can possibly save us in the long run is a growth in mortality rate & a growth in sterilisation.

Good morning individual.
No way around this.
You and I clash, at every opportunity.
You may remember a thread that saw the late C J Morgan and myself, reach out to you.
Our departed poster tried very hard to get you to put some meat on your thoughts.
To express just what you required of humanity what directions and changes.
Sorry, your simplistic, some what weird, short jabs do not give me hope, even you under stand your words.
Sterilization? of who, judged by who, why.
I hope not your self.