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link me to the left wing filth
Belly,
No-one does but you keep defending them ?
Posted by individual, Saturday, 8 October 2011 7:09:59 AM
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http://www.amma.org.au/home/home/media_publications/publications.html#ReportsPapers

Belly, the article was based on AMMA information, as was the article
in the Australian. Read some of the reports on their website,
their members employ 170'000 workers and their expertise is
industrial relations in the mining industry.

In this case, they have credibility and expertise in the field,
you do not.

Building LNG plants etc is not like building a road. It is a highly
complex jigsaw, with billions of $ of investment involved. One small
piece of the jigsaw can bring the whole lot to a stop, so one little
obstinate union can use time and delay after delay to bring everything
to a halt.

There is no free bargaining. The union has the monopoly and its
members can't be sacked. That gives it the liberty to be an obstinate
thug, if it wishes.

No wonder these companies are sourcing more and more from offshore.

The reported comment from Howe said it all. They make no apologies,
they are out for whatever they can get.

This is not about what is fair and just, its about who can screw
whom and how. Now they can seemingly use the Fair Work act to do it.

Given what is going on in the NW, why would any overseas think of
investing in manufacturing in Australia? For everyone can see
the thuggery going on, which was my point all along.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 8 October 2011 9:09:25 AM
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Yabby,

ALIA - Australian Library and Information Association
is not a Union - unfortunately. Therefore your reference
to "Lexi's Library Unions," is not correct. Just thought
you should know.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:03:50 AM
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Yabby you quote a union to insult a union, that group is a union for its members.
You too, selected a link that, in its own content, plays word games.
It gave both a figure that COULD BE EARNED and a lessor one that is earned.
Let us look at how many work around our country in total, in this industry.
Would it be 2.000. maybe 1.000 or more likely less than 500.
Why did the bosses agree, did the union enter the room armed? did they hold hostages.
Are you aware, UNDER CURRENT LAW! a union can only with draw its workers/strike ONLY for safety reasons, or during wage negotiation periods.
That if one side or the other is NOT NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH.
One side or the other can ask for an independent resolution.
So what thuggery was involved?
Haliburton, last Vs President of the USA heavily involved, during Howard leadership.
Bough nonunion Laborers to South Australia, paid $40 a day!
is that ok.
You will note I reply to your posts disagree, feel you are unfair, but respond.
Individual is not like that, uninformed biased and bigoted yes informed no.
1 in 5 to blame for high wages??
Bosses union is ok workers no?
Now you will again turn it in to an insult but my union always wore the left wing insult Australia's Weakest Union because forever and always we are the best.
The one bosses flock to for protection from the thugs.
Wages next post but are you aware of the working poor of America, is that something we should pursue?
Is it ok to let a boss sell his product but control workers wanting to sell their only product time and effort for a fair price.
Is being in a union bad if you are a worker ok if a boss.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:15:36 AM
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Really? I find that a bit difficult to believe.
Wobbles,
May I suggest you take holidays in remote areas of Australia & see where your tax Dollar goes ? You'll think twice who you're going to vote for at the next election, that I guarantee you.
Council CEO's & their mates are costing you an average of half a million a year in pay & travel expenses. Then there are all the other Govt. agencies & let me tell you the Govt. thinks along the same lines here as some OLOers. Do you know that just about every service is now being contracted out by Govt. ? Rather than say, pay a local electrician $65/hr they fly in, accommodate & fly him back again because he only charges $55/hr. They can say they got a cheaper electrician. The local electrician meanwhile is screaming for work.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:23:36 AM
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QUANTAS both sides
I have grounds to know, not think what is taking place, both sides do not wish us to know the whole story.
QUANTAS once a government owned firm was championed world wide for its safe record.
After the first world wide fuel price hikes a long while ago, it still lead in safe conduct.
Facing profit cuts airlines not from here, got to share their customer base paying far less wages and over heads.
Not too long ago Quantas began looking at expanding in to other country's and ,to compete it paid less wages to those country's workers, often useing them in our country.
Repair and such became a way cuts could be made, one owned subsidy has true concerns far worse than them with safe flying.
Now more international than Australian it is following international business habit.
Bringing in an over seas manager, rewards doing the dirty work,,to make the changes then leave taking the blame.
QUANTAS wants to increase its servicing over seas to use more workers from other country's for less pay.
The Unions fighting with a well known tactic
It notifies a strike then,at the last second calls it off, no strike action but same results, I support them.
I value air safe practice and Australian jobs.
Quantas will win, we will not, Australia that is.
A result will be a less safe airline less ours more profitable.
And a least couple of tragic events one for sure, here in Australia.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:36:23 AM
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