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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/laundry-staff-can-earn-more-than-420k-a-year-on-offshore-construction-projects/story-e6frf7l6-1226027779689

There you go Belly. Now say sorry for being wrong yet once again :)

Methinks that you don't have the foggiest about what is going
on in Western Australia, where union thuggery is once again with us.

They are not all like Lexi's library union lol.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 7 October 2011 8:17:58 PM
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http://www.news.com.au/business/oil-rig-workers-on-2000-a-day-as-mining-execs-warn-of-high-wages/story-e6frfm1i-1225936903076

More union greed for you, Belly. But as your Paul Howe is quoted as
saying, they make no apologies, if they can get it they will.

So my advice is sound. Unless its a resource project with potential
rewards, run for your life from Australian unions and invest where
these people don't operate.

You watch, Qantas will go down. The airlines shares are at give away
prices. Best that the unions buy it with workers super fund money
and then they can show us how to actually run a company, or lose
all the super fund money as workers send themselves broke.

Meantime Jetstar etc will make money in Asia, saving present
shareholders a little bit of their losses.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 7 October 2011 8:32:51 PM
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Lexi,
Looks I hope you're comfortable with defending incompetence. I know I wouldn't be.
Posted by individual, Friday, 7 October 2011 8:40:52 PM
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Lexi we all know that Melbourne is the largest Greek city, outside of Greece, but that doesn't mean you have to contract the Greek disease.

Yes you had it under Kirner you got very close to going broke, with the huge public service bleeding the state dry. You should be grateful that Kennett pulled you out of the mess that usual Labor management had got you into.

Without him Melbourne, & the state were heading for bankruptcy. A state, or a country can only pay itself much more than it earns for so long. Sooner or later you end up where Greece is now.

I would suggest you hang onto your hat, the Greece problem is not solved, & I doubt it will be. It is likely to project the EU into complete turmoil, & there is little chance that we will avoid the tsunami that will follow.

Right now a great deal of your hospitals, schools & welfare bill is being payed for by Queensland & WA mining income. That's fine, while we have it, we are all Ozzies, but that income is likely to falter if/when China's exports are damaged.

Much as it might not be a nice outcome, I will be surprised if we are still shoving hearts, lungs & livers into people because we can, in the very near future, at least on the public purse. We might be lucky to get a broken arm fixed soon. The cut backs you are seeing now could very easily be child's play compared to how tight the public spend may have to be if Greece, & the EU fail.

In the near future people will probably have to chose between spending half a million on every boat person, or giving a local a needed operation. That's when the stuff is really going to hit the fan.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:32:31 PM
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"400 Grand a year for the laundry workers on the gas rigs.
120 Grand a year for unskilled building workers working on Govt sites."

Really? I find that a bit difficult to believe.

In any case, an employer will only pay a worker a dollar if he expects to get more than that dollar back. The wages paid in the mining industry for example, are a combination of labour supply-and-demand plus the massive profits involved. I'm sure they would love to replace all their local workers with cheaper foreign imports if they could.

The reasons that Unions were created in the first place is still there. We aren't living in some "enlightened era" where employers have suddenly become welfare representatives.
Posted by wobbles, Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:23:59 AM
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Yabby it is you not me that is wrong, for the sake of reality ask that paper to prove its lies.
EXAMPLE, woman died on highway, reaching over the back seat to comfort baby at 100klm per hour.
Road straight surface good no potholes.
Story next morning, pot holed highway kills again!
Description of road way 37 kilometers further north given, police quoted, MANUFACTURED QUOTE she may have swerved to miss pot hole.
IT HAPPENED.
On entering a room to start negotiating the person opposite may well be as hard as they come.
Yabby has the view it is union officials ranting and raving a child like thought.
A verbal trashing may be handed out a threat to reduce numbers if wages go too high or even take the jobs off shore, RARELY.
Fact is markets rule.
If work is short wage rises will be small.
If it is workers who are in short suplie it will be bosses offering higher wages.
I remind posters of this.
TWO sides sit at that table, the idea 1 in 5 workers control wages is? silly!
Now if your worker wants $400.000 to wash cloths, and if you fear union thugs enough to pay it.
I offer you this, send for me, hide under your desk! pay me to be your back bone.
If I can not cut I work for free.
I am waiting to see my first unionist armed with an ak47!
Individual! if you continue to post such rubbish except my view you are unwell.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 October 2011 4:21:48 AM
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