suzeonline, is obviously conditioning this young boy to consider himself homosexual by her view of him.

She said, "No one would ever say to my friend that her son was obviously gay, and certainly he needed no 'convincing'. I have seen it with my own eyes several times Thinker2 ... I am sorry, but people are definitely born gay."

So she has predermined his sexual orientation by the way she looked at this infant child.

Don't be ridiculous Philo.

Me, or anyone else thinking someone will probably be gay (although we were right), doesn't 'cause' someone else to be gay.

I say again, why would anyone 'choose' to be gay?

What could anyone say to you to 'make' you become gay?
That is a truly silly notion, and you know it.

You don't like the 'sins' of being gay, according to your religion, so you search for any reason other than the one that says that gay people ARE born gay.
Indeed, if a God is said to have made all living things, then they made gay people as well, didn't they?

“The children's story, described as one of the saddest in the state”

Hahaha...

Ahh dear poor Abey.

Freaky thing about Barnardo’s is that we hand them guardianship (far as I know) not merely custody. Legal stuff - boring but hard to argue with.

Philo:” If the child was merely playing dress ups at home, is one issue; but if he was identifying with his women carers or was diliberately being dressed as a girl is disturbing.”

FFS’s why?

Suzy:” I think ALL potential foster carers should be well screened for their suitability to foster children in their home, regardless of their sexuality.”

Well that don’t happen – don’t you know there is money to be made?

Are nurses well screened to be sympathetic?

Does not matter who the kids are or what is happening to them, the ones with all the clout win and the ones with clout in NSW are the NGO's. They don't go for all this rubbish about "best interests of the child", it boils down to 'will me make more money'.

Go NICE Christians! Go hard!

No need to be sorry suzeonline and in the same way that people believe in the existence of the almighty, I have a problem with such concepts in the absence of proof.

You would have to admit it is easy to come up with notions like "people are born gay", when basing such propositions upon a pre-existence set of beliefs or faiths, if you like.

These sets of pre-existing beliefs are in most cases, born of education, and are usually acquired prior to the formative years in a person's life. This process is already are problem for childhood, with religions, corporations and their advertisers, and gays, all competing for the attention of youth, in support of their own sets of beliefs or requirements.

I am in favour of letting nature take it's course when it comes to conception and child rearing and would shudder at the thought of a world where children are manufactured to suit the needs of their guardians in future.

Having said that, I still have not seen any evidence of infant or early age same sexual attraction in my own life or lifetime suzeonline, but I can recount several cases of influence.

First time I even thought about love or why I was attracted to someone, was probably about 9 or 10 ish, in a otherwise uninterrupted childhood. The concept of coitus, still a mystery. Compare that too the childhood today's "fashion parade infants" are having, and you'll get my drift.

Jewely <"Are nurses well screened to be sympathetic?"

Of course not, but most nursing is done in the public eye, in public hospitals etc, and at least they have someone overlooking their care most of the time.

Children in foster homes are much more isolated, and at the mercy of their foster parents in a small home environment.

I didn't realise it was so lucrative to be a foster carer?
Obviously you know all about it Jewely, so what sort of money are we talking about here?

thinker2
"I am in favour of letting nature take it's course when it comes to conception and child rearing and would shudder at the thought of a world where children are manufactured to suit the needs of their guardians in future."

I would think there would be little resistance to the idea of letting nature take it's course. What will be will be, but in reality this means statistically a minority of people will display a different-to-the-norm sexuality. It is what has always happened. History shows this to be true in spite of deep resentment and opposition to homosexuality, and certainly no programming involved.

Many people in the past married due to social pressures while living a lie and it is only in modern times that homosexuals have been able to 'come out of the closet'. I know a few cases where men have left their wives after being honest with them about their true feelings. Living a lie to conform to some socially constructed norm does more harm to both partners.

As far as this case goes, sure if there is any hint of abuse from the lesbian foster parents of course the child should be removed. Homosexuals are as accountable for their actions as any other. I just believe the controversy is more about the fact the couple are lesbians which sometimes reduces the chances of a fair and rational investigation in favour of a media witch hunt.