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Lesbian foster parent controversy

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I think ALL potential foster carers should be well screened for their suitability to foster children in their home, regardless of their sexuality.
There are good and bad parents/carers in all walks of life.

I would be just as loath to place children in a strict fundamentalist Christian home where they may force the children to worship their god, and frighten them with visions of a hell etc, as I would any other abusive home.

Children are resilient, and will adjust to any home where they are shown love and boundaries, and feel secure.

It doesn't matter to children what sexuality their adult carers are.
This sort of thing only matters to bigots.
Posted by suzeonline, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 1:35:46 PM
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Of course Ammonite this is not about whether gays are being discriminated against, it's about whether children are being discriminated against or in this case indoctrinated.

Are you suggesting Pelican that gay men producing children through surrogacy will produce gay progeny. Am I reading between the lines correctly here, because if I am you are promoting the number 1 gay myth. The existence of the Gay Gene. A myth that gay advocates have been falsely promoting in the total scientific absence of proof despite the best efforts of those that would wish there was such a thing.

Historically gays have grown their community by education and in the absence of science, had no other way to do it. Now they have opportunity to influence the viewpoints of the child through parenting.

Frankly, it exceeds the wildest dreams of their community to ingrain their legitimacy from an early age into the community or more specifically the child. Do you believe it discriminates against gays to utter the possibility that they could as parents be advocating their lifestyle ?. Crap it does not.

The love is love argument is a bit like the prisoner in jail telling his intended victim that all holes are the same. Or encouraging an accomplice using the same reasoning. Or telling an 11 year boy soprano like I was, that anybody touching it has the same effect.

I didn't care at the time because physiology had already kicked in for me and I proudly told them that I liked girls and I even had a girlfriend.

Stuff this, gloves off with these people. It about time people started standing up for children you worldless knobs.
Posted by thinker 2, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 2:08:40 PM
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"Are you suggesting Pelican that gay men producing children through surrogacy will produce gay progeny."

No thinker 2, I am not - you are preaching to the converted. You need to read my history as regards SSM and the like.

I was pointing out in context of this subject, that there are all manner of parenting and all manner of families including gay men raising children. The opening poster is wont to play gender politics so I threw it in there as a knee jerk. As I said on another thread children benefit from stable loving parenting and this can be achieved in a number of family arrangements.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 2:15:44 PM
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Actually re-reading your post thinker 2 I am not sure I understand your position.

I don't know why some people are gay or not - homosexuality is not a phenomenon of the modern age, gay people have existed throughout history. It is only recently that gay people could reveal themselves without fear of persecution. Which defies the idea that one 'chooses' to be gay because it is trendy.

Whether it be a gene, a difference in hormonal makeup, synapses, spinal alignment...whatever is something of which there is no substantial research.

There is obviously some biological action at work, young people don't sit at a smorgasbord selection and choose to be gay - you either are or you aren't - or bisexual. Some people are wired differently and there is a wide sexuality spectrum as I see it.

When I know the reason I will let everybody else in on it.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 2:40:37 PM
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Thinker 2: The love is love argument is a bit like the prisoner in jail telling his intended victim that all holes are the same. Or encouraging an accomplice using the same reasoning. Or telling an 11 year boy soprano like I was, that anybody touching it has the same effect.
Yep, as I said before, "They will prey on the unaware, hurt & demoralized people to turn them to their ways. Someone who is depressed or had a bad relationship, they are right in there with their speil about how bad " men" or Women" are & offering suttle comfort until they can get you into bed."
If you say anything against them, or their methods of inducing or converting young boys or girls to Homosexuality then you get branded as Homophobic etc.
As Thinker 2 said: "Stuff this, gloves off with these people. It about time people started standing up for children you worldless knobs."
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 2:50:05 PM
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Where is the evidence homosexual conversions are taking place? This is just stab-in-the-dark hypothesising. What about the conversion practices of the Church including attaching electrodes or the conditioning programs used to re-programme homosexuals. Was that not barbaric?

Many male abusers of boys have been heterosexual. Why do many prison inmates access any port in a storm so to speak but are heterosexual by nature. I don't understand the mentality of sexuality but to align it with child sexual abuse is a gross misrepresentation, where is the evidence?

Human beings are much more complex and I reckon sexual deviance sits in a category all by itself.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 3:03:19 PM
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