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The Forum > General Discussion > Lest we forget! - Out of sight, out of mind.

Lest we forget! - Out of sight, out of mind.

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Dear Lexi.
Maybe the people wont be compelled to pay the carbon tax directly, but we will pay it indirectly in the price raisers of all the goods, every day needs to exist.
Yesterday I was at the Australian Sovereignty Party AGM. One of the topics was concerning tax. It was explained the number of taxes we are already paying, a total of 125 and if the flood levee tax and the carbon tax is introduced it will then amount to 127 taxes we are paying.
Experiance has or should have taught us that Corporations pass on the costs they incur for their products on to the consumer, we the people are the consumer. Whether you like to believe it or not we will end up paying the carbon tax. For the records I was a labor voter and no I do not like the Liberal Coalition.
We need politicians who will represent the people who vote for them. None are doing this now.
Posted by gypsy, Monday, 15 August 2011 2:36:30 PM
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Dear gypsy,

The cost of living is going up no matter what happens.
That part won't change with or without this policy.
But my goodness look at what we're complaining about.
Australia is doing remarkably well compared to other
countries. We're complaining that we can't spend more
than we do - while people are starving elsewhere.
This policy is a very moderate attempt in securing a
clean energy future for us all. And, to my way of thinking -
it's a small price to pay for a clean energy future. This
is a first step in the right direction.
BTW: Low income earners
will be compensated - so it is do-able, with the least
upheaval on us all. Once this gets
under way next year - you may just discover that it hasn't
affected you as badly as you've been led to believe that it
will. And as I said - what's the alternative? Do nothing?
That's not an option, in my view at least.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 15 August 2011 2:52:28 PM
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Dear Lexi
Implementing policy is one thing, but telling a blatant lie is another. This is the issue with hr carbon tax policy.

Now, as for taxing the large poluters, just remember, it is they who polute to provide us with our needs and wants. We will pay fo it and some, because, as I have tried to explain before, businesses don't run on a cost recovery basis.
They need o make. Profit.
Now you say is to be green. Well, ho on earth do you think little old Australia can fix the global problem. Get a grip!

Now you keep referring to labor winning e election. That's crap and you know it.

In fact, we are now seeing the costs of JG and her desperate plee to hold office in the form of an Andrew wilki and his unworkable pokie policy. Upset 97% to fix the problems of 3%. has live export small about it, hey!

Finally, I just hope there is somethin to salvage in two years an, if we are the lucky ones, as you say, this says very little for the rest.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 15 August 2011 6:48:07 PM
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Dear rehctub,

We've been over this ground so many times that frankly
I don't see the point of going over it again.
You see things one way, I see them in another way.

As to who is right or wrong - well, the voters will
decide in the end anyway. If they're not happy with
what they're getting - they can always vote on it at the
next election. Frankly to me, Mr Abbott has not offered
any better alternatives - and to vote for
him and his party simply because they say this government
is lousy (without offering me anything better) well - to me
that's just simply not logical.
Posted by Lexi, Monday, 15 August 2011 8:29:21 PM
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Yes Lexi i agree, but you brought it up.

So why is it that none of you supporters recognize that it is we who are causing the polluters to pollute.

Once agin they are taxing the wrong people.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 7:22:47 AM
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Madness is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

So why on earth does anyone vote for Labor. Amnesia?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 7:36:01 AM
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