SM,

I was not aware that the links I gave were from
a "Greenie blog," (insipid or ortherwise). Those
particular links actually give a rather balanced
point of view - and it would be to your credit
if you used your intellectual capacity to look
at what they're actually presenting - rather than
simply brushing them aside because they may not
happen to state things as you see them - or match
your political inclinations.

However, I guess when it comes to discussing
politics the moment analysits begin to look critically
at motivation, circumstances, context, or any other
such considerations, the product becomes unacceptable
for one or another camp of readers.

In political discussions
people are often more interested in condemnation rather
than explanation. Explanations seem tatamount to
sympathizing and excusing. This however, all too
easily leads onto the questionable practice of
stereotyping parties and if people are reluctant to
modify their judgements, the result is usually a
complete breakdown of communication.

See you on another thread.

Cheers.

Lexi:>> When is enough enough? For me the jury's seems to
still be out. - we can look back and see what their achievements were
and compare these with the criticisms made against them and see how the scales balance out.<<

Lexi it seems the corpus callosum has failed one in three Aussies.

If you take your vehicle for repair and the mechanic consistently fails to deliver fit for purpose results, and all you have is a bill that in no way represents value for money you would complain there and then. You would take into consideration previous work done and make a value judgment on the mechanic…you would not go back to his business, you would feel cheated, he is a failure with no improvement shown or expected. So why expect Gillard to improve?

Lexi that the “jury” is still out in your mind regarding the current Labor Party and their ability to return value for money does not bode well in the rationality stakes. Even our Belly can see that this Cabinet have mismanaged all they have touched while sticking to his core beliefs that the projects of themselves are beneficial to Australia. A Cabinet that stuffed up EVERY significant project they implemented.

Your comment about waiting to see is Tolkienesque in its fiction, wait to see what? They appointed a new leader who said “we stuffed up but it is going to be better now”, and the failures went on unabated. Lexi you fail to understand that this government like the Rudd government is run by a handful, the rest of the Cabinet are sock puppets and the only powerbroker who acknowledges the backbenchers is the whip, making sure they front, because that is ALL the backbenchers are there for, no input what so ever. Do you know who you support, it’s not the ALP, its the Fabians. Why are lifelong Labor folk disillusioned, it is because the ALP they knew has gone?

“Scales balance out” , indeed, lol.

Tony Abbott has been wearing out just as much shoe leather debunking the Carbon Tax, a policy he himself entertained only a few years ago.

The truth is while all this campaigning by Shadow Minister is funny at best, the Opposition is no different from the ALP and in some ways they will be worse. There will be no money for growing needs for improved infrastructure and you can bet hospital and health funding will be cut while the public service mandarins continue to feather their nests with little impact on the senior levels. They will build a huge surplus from our taxes for little more than boasting rights and do little with it. In business this is called overpricing or a rip-off.

Laughable. Now the Opposition is thinking of cutting millions from the public service (they will all result in loss of frontline services no matter what they promise-seen it happen too many times before). There is still no policy substance from Mr Abbott only disparaging rabble from the sidelines.

Mr Abbott's whole campaign is based on debunking the Carbon Tax he once supported - if that's it he still needs another rabbit to pull out of the hat. This ones got bells on it.

There is still no policy substance from Mr Abbott only disparaging rabble from the sidelines.
pelican,
streamlining the public service is substantial policy and it is designed to sideline the rabble that is there now.
Tony makes way more sense than his counterpart.

Toni seems to be talking for himself. Surely the whole clan don't think like him. I can see him getting a tap on the shoulder.
I think the possums were stirring while Toni was absent, in the mother country. He is in the dark ages, no policy what so ever. Most people are not that stupid.
Whingers scream loud, but when it comes down to it many will think.
Julia is a very strong female, as she has demonstrated. Somebody has got to carry the can or we will get nowhere.
NBN will be a fantastic asset for generations, cleaning up our environment, getting off oil and coal.This is what AU needs, we cannot fix the problems of the world but we can look after our own back yard

Most people are not that stupid.
A597,
Then how do you explain the ALP getting so many votes ?