So ok now lets see.
The carbon tax, in my view is based on a belief the worlds,[ put a few bob in the OLO tin and we can get highlighting methods].
Climate is or is not being affected by a number of gases man is making.
Lets for a second say it is.
While Australia is a high emitter on the per head of population scales.
Our planned cuts, in the short term or middle distance, are not going to change the world.
Planet, our big rock,if we intend to act, it is not about sweeping our bit of sky.
Now carbon tax, is based on several things, to solve an INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM.
Labor intends to? allow our firms to trade! how long has Liberalism been against that?
We too will sell, world wide credits, making cash for farmers out of the scheme.
Our Tony, says we will not trade with these foreigners!out standing! silly!
So impacts, Quantas was fined by the EU because this country did not have a reduction scheme, we all may well be one day.
IF we cut others will, a good result.
If enought cut maybe we can force others to follow.
Tony, way up there sweeping our sky to clean up looks rather silly.

The qantas job losses in my view as as a direct result of ridiculous And unworkable IR laws our companies are now faced with.

It is the beginning of more to come, however, unless you are a risk taker, who creates jobs, then you will find it a hard concept to grasp as you live in a world that is provided to you, by others.

belly quote...""Climate is or is not being affected
by a number of gases man is making.""

note you said gasses
not just c02 gas
why only tax one?

[ok i will tell you
europe has too many..'permits to polute carbon'
infact has enough ALLREADY OUT THERE..to lasst till 2020

so juliar wants us to BUY them
[to bailout the failing euro]

""While Australia is a high emitter
on the per head of population scales.""

no mate..thats the spin
we rank 7th

""Our planned cuts,in the short term
or middle distance, are not going to change the world.""

not even if we are still buying them in 100 years mate
[for AT LEAST 120 a ton[indexed as they OHH soo cleverly are
we are helping the rich become richer]..and thats about all.

meanwhile ALL the other gasses..will keep on 'poluting'

""Now carbon tax,is based on several things,""

so they say
""..to solve an INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM.""

egsactly mate

""Labor intends to..allow our firms to trade!""

yes if you got fre ones you can sell them
if YOU PAID for them..they EXPIRE..if you dont polute enough to use them all

""how long has Liberalism been against that?""

they arnt
they love it
remember john howard THUNK it first
and in uk...its the liberals doing it
[who love juliar]...for now

""We too will sell, world wide credits,""
mate if you can 'buy them in nz for $13 buck's
or the euro ones for 10

WHO IS GOING TO WANT TO BUY OURS?
except them PAID to polute[who get theirs for free]
who WILL be selling them for a clear proffit..!

""making cash for farmers out of the scheme.""
mate this isnt 'for farmers'..its for international carbon traders

""Our Tony, says we will not trade with these foreigners!""

no he only wants to buy the cheaper FOREIGN trade permits

""out standing! silly!""

yep mate
thats why i hate
the 'whole blooming lot of em'

""Quantas was fined by the EU
because this country did not have a reduction scheme,""

so we get 'a sceme'
issue them to multinationals
like a tax offset..[heck mate they are getting a FULL REFUND anyhow
in their tax return]..ie the mug tax payers are ALLREADY paying

""we all may well be one day.""

one what?
[mug...comes to mind]

""IF we cut..others will}}

mate europe is increasing,
china is increasing
HECK even the govts own numbers show WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE*
read the lassdt page like tony keeps telling us

""a good result.""

yeah
FOR WHO?

""If enought cut
maybe we can force others to follow.""

mate WE CUT OUR ELECTRICITY USAGE in qld
[KNOW WHAT HAPPEND?...[they increased the price even more..cause THEY NEED the income..to pay off the INTREST on the outstanding 65 BILLION qld owes the money changers]

""Tony,way up there
sweeping our sky to clean up looks rather silly.""

not half as silly as juliar
telling us only 1000 will pay
then only 500

or saying that polar bears will drown
mate its collective INSANITY allround

So, have any of you supporters out there given any thoughts to how on earth we are going to feed the demands of the likes of India and china, while at the same time cut our own emissions,

I seriously doubt you have the answers, unless of cause you are a green/brown supporter and have no problems with another country cutting our grass.

Wake up to yourselves, you are placing our entire future at serious risk because if Australian all of a sudden ceased to exist, the cuts o global emissions would be negligable, and you all know it.

This we are the largest per capita ommiter is just spin.

Of cause we are, because we supply much of the global demands and, we rely so much on exports.

By all means ruin your world but please leave mine alone.

Yes, thought so.