Shadow Minister,
I dont really care because both sides have zero talent. No experience in the areas they need to write policys on.

I spoke at length with your buddy's office today and they admit they have only 3 people- with zip experience. Nobody understands the ag industry. Claims no $..?

I am its not just speaking of ag either. They have an adviser Richard no idea of the industry. Ego wont listen. Tonys problem is he keeps rushing around to Church based radio stations etc but no time to talk with public or groups.

Anyway, lets see what happens. BTW are we awake yet?. These polys that only talk with one lot of groups. Dont u think its a bit sus the ALP greens and indos went for a bill to ban live exports in 3 years.? Wow isn't that funny thats just what the Indonesian Gov told us they wanted. When polys stop doing deals with just one or two of us- THEN we can get results.

That goes for green & ALP back benchers too! Especially them

Maybe I am being precious but I do not recall the level of hate and personal insults aimed at Mr. Howard to the levels we see today against the present PM.

The real point is that this type of hate and abuse has reached levels that do not credit anyone.

It is time that we all looked at ourselves and ask what is the abuse and hate achieving.

No one can claim that debating the issues is not more productive that attacks the man/woman.

Flo

Thank you

Flo,

Sorry, I hit the wrong button. For whats its worth I think by the time the elections come round carbon tax will be old hat.
I reckon by the Christmas we will have a fair idea of which way things will go- one way or the other.

If ALP dont back the bill to faze live exports within three years put up by Xenophon NOR back the greens bill for a instant ban they certainty wont be in Government the next term. Now given you do not know me I should put my hand up right now and tell you I am often posting about banning this vile trade. However Flo, thats not what i am basing it on.
Fact is the industry are unfairly not going to vote for her despite the fact its resumed).

That leaves her with the hundreds of thousands who insisted ALP ban it. They are NOT happy its resumed but waiting until the inquiry & the bills going forward.
I hear ALP are not backing it. Which simply means she wont get the peoples vote. Greens wont be happy- & maybe do a deal with Tony.

The greens put ALP in and they are free to deal with others for the next one. Greens are just as determined as I am to see it banned.
ALP got bad advise because now they have upset all sides.
She needs to support the bill if ALP want to stay in power

ALP KNEW that was one of Greens main policys and - goodnight to you.

Flo I do remember,

I also remember the very effective scare campaign run by labor with regards work choices, the very tactics that Abbott is now using to devastating effect.

Shadow Minister

For once we agree. It was just what we needed and Howard knew it !