Sonofgloin,I think you have described Juliar to a T.She and Labor have to go and we cannot wait 2 yrs.

Juliar indicated that she reluctantly took the post of PM on the request of the Labor caucus - Lie, she actively canvassed the caucus for support to overthrow Rudd.

Firstly SM, irrespective of how strong your feelings may be on a particular policy or policys- to call the Prime Minister of Australia Juliar ( over& over again) is very disrespectful- not even so much of the woman but Australia. It also gives us some insight of the alternative government and you*

Its neither an intelligent or very nice picture . Its equally as tacky to keep using the word LIED- Try mislead when debating politics because people be more prepared to listen.

Its just as well Rudd's gone & we need him gone as Trade Minister too.

*would not impose a carbon tax. -*

Everybody else in AU understands she has not got full control & that came with greens- why cant you?

*she had always been for a carbon tax. * Actually she took a policy to Tony well before the elections- HE knocked it back!

*she would never send refugees to a country*

So what- 24 hrs in politics is a lifetime- things change. Stronger ties with Malaysia is SMART- very!

Regardless of whose elected it will make little difference. So guys grow your veggies be nice to a stranger.

btw glad to see your ok belly - did wonder

So how is "an alliance with the Greens" different from "an alliance with the Nats"?

The Libs have never won a National election in their own right and Abbott was bending over backwards to give the independents the same promises if they would give him the PM job.

I guess it came down to which leader THEY trusted more and going by Abbotts tendency to be erratic and inconsistent, they probably made the right choice.

As for "mandates", although Howard won more seats during the 2001 election, Beazley won more primary votes than him so what's so different now? Just the number of seats in dispute to form a majority and back then it was all "core" and "non-core" promises.

I'm not interested in what Abbott's NOT going to do as much as what he WILL do but we won't know that until an election is called.

Meanwhile he changes like the wind and remains as elusive. He might be doing OK now but he'll have to put up something convincing in the next couple of years to maintain it, no matter how much media bias he manages to enjoy.

heads turning endlessly mouths open.
Belly,
great description, how many mirrors did you use when you saw that ?

individual,

You seem to be quite vocal in your criticism of posters who resort to ridicule on your "Answer the question" thread - and yet you appear to regularly indulge in that practice yourself - perhaps you're the one who ought to look in the mirror.

Belly,

<< I think if those who do not agree with you stop posting in your threads only a few posts would be in them.>>

Spot on, if those of a different opinion can band together and refuse to engage with those who disagree with you, it might be possible to stifle the debate you don’t wish to have.

As a “call to arms” this is a brilliant strategy, censorship is also the last refuge of a failing ideology.

Congratulations on sticking to the plan and be grateful to all those who have failed before you through the lack the substance to debate.