Poirot,
Look a little more closely & you'll find that I'm merely mirror echoing when someone gets dirty. Blame the source, not the result.

indiviual,

Fair enough. We all get involved in a little smart-arsed tit-for-tat occasionally - but you seemed to be implying that you were above that.

SOG do not hold back mate, I will not, and do not expect you to.
So here it is,I have given up on you, look no doubt you are far brighter than some, but I just see what you post.
So no need to answer your diatribes, doubt, you are any type of Socialist, true, see Germany's ww 2 Socialism in you.
Rechtubs comment was ofensive, but gee honestly I doubt he knows that.
Shadow Minister? come on be honest,it is like debating with a brick wall, lots of mindless graffiti nothing worth reading.
Now for INDIVIDUAL! my mate.
I read every post in your thread, from you it wasMonty Python like.
Mate YOU FIRST years ago, called every non conservative voter a TRAITOR.
Be happy to know it and one thousand insults are here in your post history.
We GY maybe unable to comment, would all be on record at the Office Of National Assessment.
As we should be, our country needs to know who some of us are.
I dare not say who should be on that list.
But I was, in 1975 as An ALP activist ,they told me so.
I once again, say this threads title is not the truth in use.

Whom leaked? Maybe it was hacked, you never know.

If the story is true, do you know the context.

The PM has shown she is able to think outside the square.

It could be seen as getting something through and taking the heat out of climate change. It would have left Mr. Abbott with little to say.

It could have be seen as a beginning, to be added to later on.

No ones knows where Mr. Abbott's proposal goes after 2020.

It could have been a worthwhile option.

Politics is the art of the possible. Circumstances mean that one cannot always do as they wish. If you cannot get your policy through parliament, you have achieved nothing.

You could be right, the PM changed her mind, as circumstances changed. The PM is now able to get the policy though in a way more to her liking.

The truth is that many on this site read into everything, misconceptions that fits in with their dislike of the PM.

The truth is that their obsession, which in some cases is near hate, that colours everything the PM has done, is doing or will do in the future.

“.....It seems to me that Gillard’s statement that “those matters reported today have no veracity or truthfulness to them” leaves little wriggle room. But is it all that important if she did suggest that strategy? If so it doesn’t add up to an endorsement of Abbott’s policies. At the time the Gillard paper was supposedly written, did Abbott have an articulated policy? ....And there is no reason to assume that Abbott’s policies would have been adopted unchanged by Labor.”..

...Jeremy Thompson’s write-up for ABC Online sees the affair wholly through the eyes of Tony Abbott....... Will the ABC update it tomorrow? Possibly not as it will be yesterday’s news.
..Jeremy Thompson’s write-up for ABC Online sees the affair wholly through the eyes of Tony Abbott. OK, ..it was written before the radio National PM item went to air. Will the ABC update it tomorrow? Possibly not as it will be yesterday’s news....

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2011/07/26/gillard-always-wanted-a-price-on-carbon/

"I don't confuse Julia Gillard with Australia, and don't believe that she as a person deserves any more respect as a person because she has wriggled her way back into power."

KA, according to the Constitution, the PM government is legit.

The PM obtained her position as leader of Labor by the vote of the caucus. The caucus had lost confidence in Mr. Rudd.

This has happened to one other leader PM that comes to mind. The illustrious Mr. Menzies lost confidence of his cabinet in his pre-war two government and was deposed.

We are losing civility in this country if we cannot show respect to our elected officials.

This has nothing to do with what we think of them personally and whether we dislike their policies.

There should be no place for hate in our society.

Hate is unnecessary and a dangerous. Look at Norway, a country that is proud of their open political system

Flo et al,

You are all being a little precious. Compared to the hate and vitriol I saw posted against Howard, I am a rank amateur. However, I am prepared to give you an award for the greatest understatement I have seen in a while: "the PM changed her mind, as circumstances changed"

I can just imagine in the Lodge: "Tim what shoes should I wear, the blue or the red", Tim - "The red matches your hair, and why don't you try the carbon tax for a change." JG "That's a great idea, It goes well with the greens outfit, and the Bob brown bag."