thanks for your sincerity and passion jay
i will try to be honest in return

your quote...""we seem to agree on a lot of points,""

i agree
we all have more in common[the same]..than any real difference

""yet Whites are still taught to judge themselves
by the actions of a few criminals and thieves.""

that requires proof
for every that feels like that
there would be many more who dont..
the 'token black' or token eastern chinese
is only too common..in the halls of power...where its still in the main white rule

how many 'others' hold media empires
or own tv stations..or run party machines

sure..""The White Guilt has to stop,""

but then what...'white supremicy'?
guilt free powerfull elites?

""there's no good reason to teach little White kids
that their ancestors we illegal immigrants,thieves and murderers.""

blanket claims dont credit the debate
very few need to the vile stuff[like joseph banks singlehandedly
trying to exterminate the 'natives'..
then going home saying empty land
[terra nulios]..

it only took one

''Only White kids are targeted in this way""
give proof

'"Anti Racism and White guilt are just a cover anti White motives.""

done by who ...in control of systems?
[the black suited mafia?

look at what you really said

""You wouldn't teach Aboriginal kids
that their great grandfathers were rapists, drunks and thieves
*!*!*!even if it was the truth,*!*!*!

""you'd spare them the shame,guilt and humiliation.""

so were excuse blatent white/rights in israel
running global cartels for white suppremicy?
ie the northern..[non semite jews]

let them assume semite standing
when the true semites are loked up in gaza?

when the true semites are lower class..in gods holy land
[all jews arnt equally..jew..only white jews rule]

i agree..""Let sleeping dogs lie...
except the curs who've actually bitten someone,""

the links reveal the dog
and who has been bitten

last ones were near 80 white mainly xtian kids
the previous was murdering an innocent school teacher
who happens to have the 'same name'..as a nuke scientist

but the histry goes right back
http://www.jewwatch.com/

again we agre..""everyone should be aware of the mad dogs
so no one else gets bitten in the future.""

semite is dark skin...right?
how come the white racists
leave the jews alone

ONLY pick on dark skin arabs
cause the mossad makes it a policy
to infiltrate EVERY new group..[black or white]
then has the bloggers..to tell us black is white

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/850/298/Israel_Hires_Internet_Soldiers_to_Penetrate_American_Forums,_Chatrooms.html

Just what is a 'white' person?

Odds are that if you are of European descent then you have ancestors who had dark pigmentation as well as differing cranial bone structure.

Blame it on the Romans, they rarely let soldiers serve among their own people and when these Legonaires had served out their twenty years (or whatever was the going rate when they enlisted) they often married locals and settled down among them.
Africans would be sent to serve in Britain and Brits sent to, say, Palestine whilst Palestinians would go to Gaul and so on.

Even when they didn't settle in a particular country but chose repatriation many of them left their genes behind, here and there.

Relatively few people can tracee their ancestry back beyond a few hundred years, those of us that can go back over a thousand years are only too well aware of the mixture, ranging from good to bad to bloody awfull!

Dear davidf,

And good to hear from you too. I had heard all expats are being recalled to help with your debt crisis so all the best.

The fraught relativism is that of others and myself on this thread. And you have made a justifiable, logical point, but we are also humans with emotional responses who find greater empathy for that with which we are most familiar.

Few of us here would have had to leave our dead or dying child on a dusty roadside in a place like Somalia or had them blown to pieces by through a drone strike but many would have sent their children on camps either with their school or during school holidays. I find it neither disturbing nor unusual that the horror in Norway has elbowed other either current or historical death tolls aside for the moment. It is simply the power of the most imaginable.

Any empathy shown to other human beings in distress is a good thing and should not be negated by the lack of it shown to all peoples everywhere.

Finally it doesn't help when we know we have extreme rightwing elements in our own country and thus mostly immune to the protections our police, our alliances and our first world military afford us. Some of the violence voiced by callers to our shock jocks is appalling and deserving of our concern.

Dear David f.,

I agree. A country's image does not always gell with the reality.
But that can be said about almost any country in the world.
The images presented are often different from what one experiences.
And not everyone has the same set of experiences.
Still I believe that the past streams of migration
has given Australia its reputation
as a country of diverse peoples
that is all the better for it.
Australia is no longer considered as a cultural back-water
as it was - when it was government policy to be joylessly conformist.

Incidentally, aboriginals are boat people also !