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Norway Tragedy

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Back to the topic at hand. Apparently the Norwegian terrorist is something of a fan of our very own John Howard, Peter Costello, George Pell and even Keith Windschuttle - who have all been immortalised in the homicidal maniac's 'manifesto':

>< Norway Killer's Manifesto Praises Australian Conservatives

Accused Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik praised four Australian conservative leaders - including former prime minister John Howard - in his 1,500-page manifesto.

[...]

In a manifesto posted online under the Anglicised pseudonym Andrew Berwick, the killer quoted Mr Howard, former treasurer Peter Costello, Catholic Cardinal George Pell and conservative writer and historian Keith Windschuttle.

[...]

He praised the Howard government's border protection policies: "They have taken serious steps towards actually enforcing their own borders [and] despite the predictable outcries from various NGOs and anti-racists, prime minister John Howard has repeatedly proven to be one of the most sensible leaders in the Western world." ><

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-26/breivik-manifesto-praises-australian-conservatives/2810730

You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep.
Posted by morganzola, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 4:48:01 PM
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Very interesting Morganzola. It is truly frightening that someone can write a nasty 1500 page manifesto online and not come to anyone else's attention.

Politics and religion should be kept poles apart in my opinion.
The racist white Christian terrorist is every bit as frightening and threatening to me as any other murdering terrorist.

John Howard was one politician that used to mix politics and religion too closely together, and Tony Abbott is another.
We can do without it.

We are just as likely to have extreme right-wing conservative terrorists in our country as any other, and it is ironical that someone like Breivik who is so upset by multiculturalism that he murders so many of his OWN people.

Twisted logic for a twisted mind.
Posted by suzeonline, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 5:31:56 PM
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Here we go, new information is drip fed in the days following the terror attacks, as per usual.
The old familiar pattern starts to emerge:
- At the time of the shooting The Police are inexplicably absent from the murder scene, or delayed by incompetence and "bad luck". No helicopter was available but a helicopter was over the island at the time of the shootings and it's occupants observed the carnage.
-The terrorist was "investigated" by Police in the months before the attack but his activities were not thought suspicious or serious enough to warrant further inquiry.
- The terrorist changes his story, remember at the seascape lodge Martin Bryant was talking on the phone to a Police negotiator asking them to stop targeting their "main man upstairs", while the sounds of gunfire are heard in the background, he later changed his story and pleaded guilty.

I'll go out on a limb and speculate on what's going to happen next.
-Witnesses will have trouble identifying Breivik as the killer.
-Vital evidence such as security camera tapes will disappear.
- Witnesses will keep insisting that another accomplice or accomplices were on the island.
-The manner of the shootings will raise questions, ballistics data and eyewitness accounts will paint a picture of an incredible feat of precision shooting, we're already hearing accounts of people being shot in the head and neck in rapid succession, just like the victims at Port Arthur.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 5:45:37 PM
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Is Mise.
You know who White people are, that kind of talk doesn't wash among intelligent company.
Nobody has ever asked me what race I am, these "Who's White anyway?" comments only occur anonymously on the internet, people don't ask such things in real life.

One under god
Yeah..again, I don't have a lot of time and I try not to get into arguments over obscure points and minutae, as above, everyone knows who is White in the context of this discussion.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 5:53:51 PM
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Dear Jay of Melbourne,
I am glad to meet a kindred spirit, in that, when I look at another individual,all I see is another human being, 'colour' (OH! how I loathe that expression,), to me the skin is the covering, it is what lies beneath that covering which interests me. I see all of humanity as children of the universe, honestly that is the truth. When we saw on TV the poor beings on the Horn of Africa, I just sat there and bawled like a 2 year old, watching the malnourished suffering so much. Because I am neither young nor wealthy, there is not much I can do to help. My Doctor donates six weeks of his time annually and takes his wife (a nurse) and his young (ish) children working for 'Doctors without Borders" in East Africa, all we can manage is to Donate to that organisation, at least the children and adults get some Medical care.
I really feel that the African folk from all cultures are too much maligned, when, let's face it, we are descendents of them. And, much as I like nature, and all of its' critters, humanity comes a big 'first' for me.
I enjoyed your post, very thoughtful.
NSB
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 5:58:45 PM
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NSB
But you understand why I address other White people with general or "universal" concepts and to some extent play up to the "White supremacist" fantasy?
I'm pro White, I'm showing dissent toward mainstream views on race but I play the game according the rules and never break those rules, something which people like Breivik will never understand.
It's true that White people live more or less in a fantasy world, it doesn't matter what you're selling or what point of view you're trying to give them you have to role play a character that fits into their vision of the world.
I'm giving a point of view on Race which is tailored to fit into these White fantasies in a specifically White way, if I'm posting on say Muslimvillage I play a different role tailored to their rules and I never break their rules.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 6:32:55 PM
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