Common folks... Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is not pollution. Don't buy into the spin.

'Climate Change' was formerly called Global Warming, global warming caused by mankind. Most people accept there is a change in the climate but fewer everyday believe its manmade. As the majority of people around the world started questioning the AGW theory and losing confidence in the science the green spin doctors subtly shifted the terminology.

Now we have "CO2 pollution causing climate change" justifies a carbon tax. Its all a load of BS and a money grab. Don't be fooled.

Banjo it could well be that I am wrong and totally.
Understand mate I have a lot in common with you.
But on this issue, it is my honestly held view, well I could not live with myself if I held views so silly and uninformed.
I think you know nothing of the reality and only need to walk to any creek and look any park any street ,then tell me again the childish statement?
I hope Friend you are haveing me on,that you are not so proudly uninformed.

belly,
I see that you have no further comments about Greg Combets grants to left focus groups. I'd be too embassased as well if I belonged to a party that condoned such misuse of taxppayers funds.

Yes you and I do have a few views in common, but not on this issue. Nor on the issue of man made climate change.

The warmerist brigade shot themselves in the foot by their exagerated claims and alarmist statements. After 'climategate' exposed the fraud and diddling the figures and the IPCC lost its credability by spruking paper written by students, most people now dismiss the claims of the warmists. Tim Flannery, on the governments payrole, has not got anything right at this stage. He predicted permanent drought and no rains sufficent to fill dams again. Then there was the myths about sea levels rising up to 100 metres? Oh, and dont forget the 'climate scientist' at the now infamous Uni, saying British kids would not know what snow was. Then some people actually believed K Rudd when he said a couple of hot days in Adelaide was due to global warming. Now the alarmists are claiming that CO2 is pollution. How about that.

However every now and then mother nature shows us how inconsequental humans are by an active demo. Like the Floods, Japan earthquake, the volcano in Chile. Look up Kracatoa, a volcano, it effected the earths weather for years when it blew, and we have the audacity to think we influence the climate.

Common sence makes me sceptical, but if and when AGW is proven I will change my mind. I don't even have to keep tabs on it as i am sure the alarmists, like Flannery, will let us know.

Thw whole carbon tax is just a rip off to get more money for government to waste and repay the debts recently made.

Banjo far worse things have been done by Labor and Liberal governments, than the charges you lay against Greg.
Greg is one of the truly good performers in the government,we have many hidden behind the Gillard curtain.
I take this opportunity to hark back to my views stated here, about the Idiotic Member and Government Whip Fitzgibbon.
Although I dislike Julie Bishop his cat call was as dumb as anything he ever did, and his list is endless.
Now SCIENCE a word ignored in this debate, questioning the SCIENCE the honesty of those behind it seems , well it is your right.
But understand it is not an invention of the Australian Labor Party.
A form of xenophobia, in defense of ones views ideas thoughts not people, is finding a home here in OLO.
I do not challenge your right to your views or words but ask that you proved more evidence I am wrong.

I'm not a fan of the current Gov't Banjo, but Abbott is a disgrace followed by a conga line of them. It would be hard to be worse than the Govt we have, but the Abbott led opposition is un- electable. Not even the Independents could bring themselves to do it.

Besides that, it doesn't matter which Govt is in power now, none could hold dominion on our behalf over Big International Business interests, because our law structure is damaged and I repeat living standards will deteriorate for Australians until somebody does something about the restoration of our regulatory structure, particularly in the area of our understanding of the role that business is required to fill in our society.

The economy is Caveat Consumer, meaning that business is effectively exonerated from blame and the consumer is always wrong. The wage earner at fault for expecting a pay rise etc and so on.

Environmental responsibility does not exist and Media corruption is as deep as tapping the phones of the ordinary person. This is probably a world wild phenomena in the Murdoch Empire. With this sort of thing going on , political independence may well be a thing of the past.

Frankly Banjo you should compare the gravitas of my propositions to the unimportance of your debt concealment theories regarding the Gov't.

Belly,
No old mate, it is up to those making the claims of Man induced climate change to prove their case, which dispite billions poured into this 'research', they have not been able to do. The science is far from settled.

As i said, the alarmists shot themselves in the foot by their exagerated claims and they wonder why most people now dismiss their theories.

When they offer proof I will change my mind.

In the meantime, is not oil based fuels one of the major contributors of CO2? So with petrol not being affected and only 500 companies having to pay the tax, the whole thing becomes a sick joke and simply revenue raising.

How long will the promise of no tax on petrol last? Yeah the PM has an enviable record for not lieing.