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The simple solution to carbon pollution

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Spend Billions on cutting climate Gasses, he proposes to fund it from general revenue.
Belly,
that is just so illogical. how do you propose Abbott or Gillard for that matter to spend billions ? Labor spent all the money there was ? There isn't anything left ! That's why Govt has to raise taxes & introduce new ones. This new tax is just the nail in the coffin for Labor. Australia has now reached a stage so bad that people are actually starting to think about politics. This will be evident at the next election. If there isn't going to be a change then there are more people out who don't think then I thought possible. No tax will reduce pollution, a reduction of population is the one & only factor that will reduce pollution.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 7 July 2011 6:40:10 AM
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Belly:>> Tell me SOG Banjo and others.
What do you know about Abbott's proposal.<<

Belly I am not going to sing Abbotts praises, he is no hero to me, but the Gillard government has got to go, nothing more nothing less.
Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 7 July 2011 9:32:05 AM
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belly reveals a bad thing we ALL do

quote...""me beat myself.""

too right bluey
wether blowing a horn
or ringing a bell..thats what we all do

we let negativity enter
[thats how/when]..good men/do bad things!

""I am thinking just why do I post?""
[that inner voice of defeatism]

it really is..a demon wispering...
ya couldnt let demons beat you..quiting would make vile people only do more vile[cause they think no-one is watchuing

think of murdoc...and his corrupting the police and govt
[recall how harward gave him so much digetal spectrum
it was rupert that made it high definition digetal..too keep the wavespecrums...he still gets for free]

we could have had standard def
could of had free internet
[instead we ALL need to by new tv..new radio...new vidio
cause we all need to go digetal..next year[THATS JOHN HOWARD]

johnny came up with taxing c02
juliar is obeying the same left wing adgenda

""I like the place but one day,
it is inevitable will stop.""

so we think
but mate if not us then WHO?

""Climate change
tell me my detractors,
are you aware this is not just and ALP policy?""

yes we are aware...belly
we didnt think YOU knew
that ITS

*HOWADS POLICY*...

do you..
*get it
*now?

your SELLING the howard plan
read what others have exposed abouve

i love you brother

but the master/boss
has done EGSACTLY..as johnny did

SET UP EGSACTLY
...what juliar...is NOW DOING..!

he begun it badly
now juliar is finnishing IT BAD

think why..it wasnt 'easy'
WE KNOW

libratter/JOHN LIES*
carbon tax/carbon trading
is HIS last death throws..

but juliar
wants to die
IN HIS PLACE

finishing a thing ..HE CORRUPTED*
he created it mate...the same howard spin/lies!
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:16:04 AM
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Belly,
I don't have a party and I do not support any party. when I vote i have a delima as to which major party I will put last, as the second last major party ends up with the vote. I will not put either major party first as i will not let them get my $2 for the vote.

Experience has taught me to be cynical of both parties. Greens are even further down the scale.

Now, instead of the speil, will you answer the questions I have put to you.
A. about carbon tax and its effect on climate
B. about Greg Combet's cash grants to organizations that support the Carbon dioxide tax.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:16:44 AM
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look at what your roboticly saying...""That much of the world
*most of*..[lol]..the science says it is man made?""

most not all
some REFUSE to sell out to a lie
buy into..yet annother howard SCAM*

""Tell me...What do you know about Abbott's proposal.""

he is howards boy
he WILL NEVER GET RID OF IT..!

once we got it..its game over

""You do understand he wants to cut emissions""

but also is AFFRAID of loosing jobs
as long as its jobs jobs jobs..he cant backdown[morrally]

but its a matter of
CAN HE IGNORE..the prizes/preasures..of the liars
can he deney rupert murdocks..of the world?

i hope so
but these people ONLY SUPPORT PEOPLE..they KNOW*
can be corrupted

""by the same amount as Labor?""

regardless of who is supporting..ANY PARTY
parties must die...and people must live

parties have no 'life' of their own
they are but dead corperations
[in serving a party..you serve the dead]

""understand his scheme will cost billions,
not funded by emitters,""

mate there are no 'emmiters'
only those 1000 who WILL BE FORCED UNDER THREAT OF LAW
to pay...whatever the market sets a carbon price at

""you know tax payers are to pay in
the region of $700 each for it.""

REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS
the people MUST PAY..either way..!

""How will Tony fund tax cut's""

how will juliar get the budget into balance
with the BIG NEW TAX*

PLUS..""increasing costs at the same time?""

no matter WHOwins
we all WILL loose*
[arround 888$ each year]

juliar...says more public serrvants
via a 3 year tax take...[it then goes to the carbon traders]

tonlie..says less public servants
saying its their savings in wages/pensions ..that will pay

either way
give us the REAL FACT's
ALL OF THEM*

then let us chose*
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:29:15 AM
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Here unless I am a complete fool is reason to fear for this country's politics.
Look in to it your self it is true.
Right now, Tony Abbott, unfit for the high office he holds[as is Gillard]
Is live on ABC TV news 24.
He is attacking Gillards green house gasses tax, claiming it will cost jobs.
He too, can not say it is not true, intends, at a lower cost, but a very big one, to cut by the same amount green house gasses.
He knows his plan costs tax payers, directly and not refunded,over $700 a year!
Tony says Gillard will hurt battling family's, but ignores her plan is to reward pensioners with rises 20% above the extra costs.
And about nine it ten houses will pay nothing! but his scheme costs every tax payer.
AND today yesterday, Abbott is screeching like a drunken Galah! about Julie Gillards photo opportunity tour!
He ,you know its true, a architect of WORK CHOICES started his months ago, touring workplaces!
Gillard warts and all, faults and all has more honesty balance and in every way out performs this awful bloke.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:41:19 AM
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