Belly,
Ok, can you tell us by how much you'll be cutting back on your useage of polluting materials ?
I do my tiny bit by not using frivolous petroleum products whenever official policy permits me to. I don't go to motor sport functions. I don't frequent football matches with their thousands upon thousands of petroleum made seating. etc. etc.

Yes individual, my feelings exactly.

I really get sick of these celebrities, whose lifestyle can only exist if hundreds of thousands of people travel to entertainment venues, who claim to be green. This after those celebrities have flown all over the world to promote the waste.

I wonder how much extra CO2 will be generated by government, in the name of carbon[dioxide] reduction? It will probably take more power to drive the extra bureaucrats, their offices & infrastructure than what will be saved.

im about over commenting on the issue
thus wont be watching her royal highness[juliar]
give her presidential feast of platitudes..BUT WILL BE READING THE LEGISLATION..!

i will be looking for these 1000 ALONE..[who will be paying]
i will be looking by what right..govt is creating these c02 permits
bankers will be buying up and trading..[for a bonus]

the whole issue is poluted
but note..THIS ISNT A POLUTERS TAX
its not going to stop gas frakking water polution of your bore

its not going to stop micro-particulate poisening
of your hair/eyes/mouth/clothing/lungs..in the city
in fact its not going to save the planet[it needs saving from ignorance..but this big new tax is based on ignorance]

take just two big time supporters
of this big new tax...[we simply dont hear them explaining
the science..or infact naming costs...details..who

[thus revealing they are playing
the partyline[fear]..[not the game]
if there is proof..they cant name it

if its the right thing
to fix the wrong thing
or make things worse..

[again they only know FOR THEM..
with their subsidised solar cells..its life as usual...

THEY WONT NEED TO CHANGE

they wont be paying the tax
because its ONLY..lol..*"1000 big/worst poluters..who will pay"

their party loyalty
blinds them from facing the fact
they too must pay..[and keep paying more TILL THEY STOP POLUTING]

its as bad as any do-gooder
doing what they feel is good
regardless of what..the one needing good..really needs

how are carbon credits created
will the bankers be creating them?
after the legislation has gone through?

or will they need to buy them from govt?

its the fed reserve scam all over again

but this time they arn't after the silver/gold
this time its after the very air we need..to breathe

The contributions of the last three posts contain a lot of gas, not sure it contains Carbon.
Writing this slowly Gents, Carbon pollution/tax is not just ,or even first second or third about individuals.
Yes we should act, I am unsure if you want to inspect my rubbish bin.
I no longer go to motor sports, probably for the same reason as Individual, I watch it on TV or maybe he just never liked it.
Side track the issue, ignore its inevitability, rehash Abbott's campaign but look again, understand,what Lexi and I said.
Understand in 10/20/30/ years the progress, innovation, new fuels, cleaner fuels , will not be a product of Belly's back yard.

I really don't understand much of this climate change philosophy. But I do see evidence of 'man made' airborne polution enveloping our big cities every so often, and I reckon we should/must do somthing about that, if for no other reason than maintaining clean air in which to breathe.

Personally, I believe too much has been spoken about climate change by those who are substantially unqualified to do so. How can an economist advise on scientific matters ? I would've thought an eminently qualified climatologist/scientiest would be far better placed to advise both the government and us, in such matters.

On one hand we have the scientific believers, and on the other, the scientific non-believers. It's the political imput that confounds and confuses me.

Though, I expect all is to be made clear on Sunday next we are told. I certainly hope so, for all of us and the sake of our (remaining) industries.

I find myself in a place I have been before.
Asking myself why I post and if I need to do so.
I have opinions, some right some wrong.
Always will have, I fail, always, the Diplomacy test, see I understand how to deceive, how to pretend I am not offended by some things.
How to get on better with people.
But I just do not want popularity more than just being myself.
I am getting it from 3 I have always regarded as Friends.
For pointing out I think differently than them.
OUG mate,you take offense at me often, but I still like you rarely agree with your view but read it always.
I see a reason to fear greens in every statement Browns team makes but my side, left of center wants to silence me?
Abbott, please do not let this pass without thought.
Has Toured Factory's EVERY sitting day! highlighting his fear campaign against the carbon tax.
Read ,understand, comment please, often a set up, interviewing for the cameras his funding manager/factory owner heads of Liberal party branches who own factory's.
This walking, talking photo opportunity has said.
See his statement this day.Gillards tour to begin next week, to inform us of the details, IS NOTHING BUT A seres of? photo opportunity's.
For just a short time, focus on this man not the tax, for just a few minutes tell me, please I think I have to ask.
Give me a list of the things free speech does not include
I will start
ANY TRULY held fears the greens threaten my country.
Any idea majority's have a right to govern