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Labors worthless rhetoric.

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The two-party system is dying because the fact is both parties exhibit a moral vaccuum.

Abbott is doing a good job of opposing all policies on the principles of 'opposition' and it is infecting all of his party members. One only has to tune into any interview of a Liberal politician and it is all the same rhetoric. Matthias Cormann's reactions on Q&A last night is indicative of this viral trend.

There is no bipartisanship forthcoming even on the most important of issues. And the about-face on the attempted take-over of Reith and cronies for the Liberal Party leadership - now you see him, now you don't.

Is this the sort of leader you wish for? Why is Abbott a better alternative? Just not being Gillard is not enough.

We need new and better democratic parties who are not beholden to corporate interests and who represent the people who elect them in good faith. The Liberal Party are more likely to put the interests of the big end of town first, the ALP is no better.

You would think the result of the last election was enough to wake the two major parties up from their sleep - but apparently not so - just remember this at the next election.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 4:48:17 PM
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Aww, give it a rest, no matter what, it is fair to say that most pollies on both sides should be buried in a saxaphone, they are all too bent to lie in a straight line.
John Winston Howard told the biggest lie of all with the "Children Overboard", leaving the Chief of Defense as the fall guy.
Most of the media is responsible for twisting the truth in a big way, and btw, just because a polly promises something, no-one said that it all had to happen straight away......the war in the middle east, the floods in Queensland and W.A., plus, not forgetting the financial collapse world wide, will all take time my friends, if you all think that you can do a better job, then become a politician and see how hard it is.
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 6:04:14 PM
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Labor has not lived up to our expectations, that is a given.
The back down on climate change.
Removal of Rudd, slowness in addressing problems in the pink bats and BER.
All true, but we also fail to sell our positives BER AND PINK BATS are wins more than failures.
Remember,have no doubt,Abbott has sold fear lies, absolutely stupid policy's, to the very same people Labor takes for granted understand our achievements.
I am trying to avoid threads such as this, they mirror Tony Abbott, duck weave run, do anything rather than confront the truth.
On Sunday things change, not over night, but with certainty change.
Abbott his servants like Joe Hockey, his masters like Minchin know,Labor could not release the plans for carbon tax, they did not exist till yesterday.
Some may still be on the table.
Today ,this truly strange impersonator of a leader,said, hear this! the so called pollution tax, he STILL says it is and it is not man made.
On Sunday his fear campaign, his made up threats about its impacts comes a Gutsa!
Slowly, but surely and firmly his false faced nature is going to remove him.
Onya Bike bloke its nearly time.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 6:32:56 PM
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All Abbott is doing is holding up the mirror. It is all the disgusting sides of Gillard are being shown simultaneously, that's the problem.

I can understand how this makes Labor supporters squirm. It is not a pretty sight.

I was not in the country at the time, but from what I saw from a distance, the libs must have had a similar problem when they were silly to make McMahon PM.

It is time for you Labor supporters to do something. This fool woman is going to bury you so deep you may never be able to dig yourselves out again.

I shudder to think of it, but too much more of her, & Brown's prophecy may just come true.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 9:40:34 PM
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"The comparison should be between 11 years of fiscal competence, with record growth, and 4 years of incompetence, lies, debt, and productivity degeneration" - but with consideration given to the effects of (and solution to) an unprecedented global financial collapse, plus now a hung parliament and an obstructionist opposition.

Record growth should also include the record increases in homelessness, suicide rates, personal bankruptcies and corporate collapses -all of which fourished during the Howard Miracle Years, not to mention incompetence in awarding huge various military contracts for equipment that did not work plus failed currency swaps.

Running down one side does not automatically elevate the other side.
Posted by wobbles, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 1:48:17 AM
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Wobbles

Far-right appears to be unable to hold up a mirror to itself.

In addition to what you have written; 11 years of zero maintainence, let alone improving infrastructure in roads, rail, education, health and no effort at preparation for climate change apart from a belated attempt by Howard in his final election campaign - would his proposed ETS have turned out to be a non-core promise had he won 2007?

And Labor is as bad on the issue of boat refugees, delaying action on climate change - Carbon Tax is looking like too little too late.

Neither party stands up well to any scrutiny. However, with 11 years of lies and obfuscation behind them the Libs remain the less worthy choice. Abbott has done everything to confirm that the Libs have learned nothing from being in opposition. His latest game with Turnbull.... leaves me very worried that the Liberal party will ever find its way again.
Posted by Ammonite, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 4:40:49 AM
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