http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/mandates-and-eggheads-the-latest-victims-of-tony-the-human-slogan-20110703-1gx64.html
A balanced understanding is in both links.
We all should ask on what basis, from what great well of understanding and information is the some what strident anti Labor stuff coming.

belly quote...""We all should ask on what basis,
from what great well of understanding and information
is the some what strident anti Labor stuff coming.""

well well belly
the well we get our info from..is the mouths of the media
or rather the spin they spin...[seems if they say 1000..that means one thousand industries consumers]..why LIE

why say 1000
WHEN WE ALL KNOW ..we all going to pay

mate its easy to spot the spin
YOU GOING TO PAY..im going to pay
WHY the heck even try to sopin it so 'only 1000 will pay'

when they mean..only 1000 will collect it
[from the rest of us]...mate thats spin
if it dont sound logical..ITS A LIE

and yes they all lie

MATE i helped rudd get in
sent him much advice..till he abused the ideas
[just like jonny howhard did before him]

we NEED new rules
if you lie..you have to give back the paqy..and pensions
THEY OBTAINED BY FRAUD...lie is fraud

hold the bbbbbasturds..to account
keep the brassturds honest

mate its all a lie
EVEN they sold out
how much power they got now?

you can fool the party some of the time
and fool the party supporters most of the time
but they really believe they CAN FOOL THE VOTERS all the time

because no matter who ya vote for
we get a liar..serving his party adgenda..NEVER the voter

all polititions talk lies
if they lie..THATS FRAUD
obtaining advantage BY FRAUD
[go to jail...directly to jail]

look up odious debt
[ie qlds soon to be 85 BILLION debt]

thats fraud too
but worse..those who lent to criminals
created an odious debt..by lie..thus were pound foolish
and knowingly consorted to crimanal act..facilitaded public fraud

its time to jail the party bosses
party loyalty is treason*..upon the people
in france they got the guila/rd-teen[gulliteen]
anyone having sat in parliment..KNOWS their isnt ever a quorum
[till a division is called]..

and then they cant wait to rush back to blogging
or watching porn on their free govt computers

sonofgloin,

This all gets more whacky by the minute.

Julia says Abbott was wrong about “petrol going up under a CO2 Tax”.

Then she announces;

Promised …….”that there will be no Carbon tax on fuel, now or ever…”

Then she says well it won’t go up for “households or small business, just big business”

So electricity will go up because of the carbon tax that “big polluters will pay”, but actually they won’t pay because they will pass it on in higher prices, which is why Julia has to pay compensation.

So if electricity is going up because of a tax on polluters, how will petrol “not” up through taxing big business with a CO2 tax? Petrol companies, refineries, distribution depots and transport companies will all pay the CO2 tax so they will pass on their costs at the pump just the same won’t they?.

So Abbott is right, petrol will go up anyway, even if you exempt domestic consumption?

Then we have “no tax on petrol….ever”.

However Julia then says, well, not until we have the excise inquiry in three years that I just promised the Greens.

I think the best place for me is IN the asylum, it’s all too strange out here, or have I got this all wrong?

Julia Gillard's word is gold.

There will be no carbon tax on petrol.

Unless of course circumstances change, like say Bob Brown says so, or the polling changes, or it rains, or unless the productivity commissions says it is a good idea.

Principles of a wharf rat, and spine of a jelly fish.

Belly I am not interested in the quality of leadership or the transparency, or lack of, that Abbott is exhibiting at the moment. Who gives a tinkers cuss about the infighting in the Liberal Party, they do not have a majority, and as long as they do not want to spend $50 Billion on cables and ditches they are common sense winners, and that is what we need a dose of.

Belly Greece is looking for about double what Gillard will borrow to dig holes in the ground to save their nation and we are borrowing that and pissing it into the wind because of a Fabian traitor to Australia with an agenda written by foreigners.

The Liberal coalition is a long second when it comes to Australian political milestones, the kudos all goes to this Labor government.

Labor firsts:
Record deficit
Record borrowing
Record spent consultants.
Record spends on media and advisors.
Record number of ministerial staff in every portfolio.
Record number of "new" departments started.
Record number of legislated projects abandoned in one term.
Record number of failures, we have not heard much on set top, but that is coming.

ETC ETC ETC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5jtiJPlv4Y
John Winston Howard his words here question todays lessor leader of his party.
We can, if we look,see spin lies and more on both sides.
But if a bigger teller of lies exists than Abbott I have not seen him/her.