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Labor Health minister soliciting donations from the tobacco industry - Hypocrite.

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"but if Labor does exactly the same thing" - except if the claims are tru they are not doing exactly the same thing. The Lib's openly accept donations from the tobacco industry, the ALP say's they don't but apparently ask for it on the quiet.

I'm thinking Jimmy Swaggart here compared to Hugh Heffner, neither of their moral's are to my taste but Hugh isn't a hypocrite.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 18 June 2011 1:36:20 PM
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Ammonite,

The difference is essentially that the coalition takes tobacco's money, and still puts in place the most effective legislation to reduce smoking.

Labor pretends not to take money and is sanctimonious about it, and after 4 years has done almost nothing, and then is caught out asking for handouts from big tobacco.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 18 June 2011 1:57:03 PM
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Robert & Shadow Minister

I find BOTH parties to be complete and utter hypocrites.
Posted by Ammonite, Saturday, 18 June 2011 2:00:19 PM
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Just a bit of clarification...

The ALP has not accepted tobacco donations since 2004
and Nicola Roxon is trying to implement legislation that
will save lives. It's the world's toughest cigarette
packaging laws.

Also regarding Nicola Roxon - the story is a beat-up.
1) The letter was sent 6 years ago.
2) There was no cover up.
3) Nicola Roxon admitted the letter was sent, owned up
being embarrassed by it, but also confirmed that -
no tobacco reps attended and that no money was donated
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 18 June 2011 4:59:50 PM
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Shadow Minister! right now your party is so far in front Gillard can not see them.
They have no need of you.
The Master of spin.
No need to lie with deliberate intent.
No need to try to hide the fact Tony Abbott far from installing the most effective anti smoking laws, watch this!
Intended to try to stop it!
The world awaits Australia's action.
It waits the coming challenges, to follow the most effective anti smoking policy EVER.
Sir you resemble the boy who cried wolf, your fate, your party's fate, may be as his was.
CLEARLY you sprout goon show type silliness.
Your efforts help cover up, some at best lunatic acts of my party AND HIGHLIGHT remind, your mob take the CASH.
Terminological Inexactitudes do not hide this.
IF YOU CLAIMS ARE TRUE, my party acted without pride ,for not taking a cent.
The crimes of you team ARE MASSIVE.
you can do better, or can you?
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 June 2011 5:09:48 PM
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"I find BOTH parties to be complete and utter hypocrites." - agreed on an overall view. My earlier post is in regard to the particular issue of them apparently still seeking donations despite a public stance to saying that they don't.

Lexi you might have missed it but there are claims that Mark Arbib was still doing so last week. I've not chased down how accurate they are.

Overall I do agree with Ammonite's point, neither party is in a position to point the finger at the other.

It's useful to have examples like this pointed out but that's about as far as it goes.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 18 June 2011 5:36:24 PM
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