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Labor Health minister soliciting donations from the tobacco industry - Hypocrite.

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/alp-still-seeking-political-donations-from-tobacco-companies/story-fn59niix-1226077398148
Here is your link Shadow Minister,and it is evidence of extreme stupidity by some ALP people.
Nothing further about Roxon, you inferred there was.
In my view a reminder both sides of the house have idiots.
NOW tell me. how much bigger is the crime.
The turning of heads to death.
Of your leader a Christian who would as health minister not let abortion drugs come into this country.
Who wanted to NOT SUPPORT the plain packaging legislation.
Who knowingly without reserve has taken, continues to take, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS from peddlers of death.
Do you shadow have ANY doubt people die /have shorter life/worse life because of the SMOKING your party is FUNDED BY.
I do not hide Labors failures,you use them,to hide and blind us,TO WORSE FROM YOURS
I charge the Tobacco industry ,who released this, with being a tool for conservative politics and that both want to influence us and stop plain packs ,A conspiracy IF ONE EVER EXISTED.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 June 2011 7:51:22 AM
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Bit of a dummy spit there Belly,

That the most anti smoking legislation was introduced by the coalition government, and that smoking levels dropped more than any other government would indicate, that the coalition is hardly pro smoking.

Abbott's concerns were that the proposed legislation was as every labor policy, poorly researched, quickly cobbled together, and more about spin than results.

Labor have done very little in the past, and this single shoddy piece of policy in 4 years is probably why they feel they can approach the tobacco industry for deserved funding.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:21:49 AM
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Shadow Minister

I want to be sure I understand you. If Labor was RECENTLY seeking donations from big Tobacco (which is hilarious given the 'Plain Package policy'), this makes them worse than the Libs who CONTINUE to receive donations from Tobacco industries.

Therefore, if the Libs do hypocritical things - it is not hypocritical it is well thought through policy, but if Labor does exactly the same thing (I guess it is a way to differentiate between two paries whose moral compass has been lost at sea) Labor is doing 'policy on the run and is hypocritical.

Riiiiight.
Posted by Ammonite, Saturday, 18 June 2011 8:29:42 AM
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without really looking the time period lexie
has fallen from 6 years to 3

how long must a thief or a liar stop lying
[lying down with dogs..to stop being called a lying thief?]

from the link...""The other five letters obtained by The Weekend Australian all came after the ALP's 2004 donation ban.

They are invitations to a NSW cabinet dinner in June 2006 at $500 a head or $15,000 for a VIP table; a similar budget function in 2007;

a "Labor Business Dialogue Forum" in August 2007; a "Business Dialogue" in June 2007; and a "Kevin 07 Election Dinner" in September 2007.

The "Kevin 07 Election Dinner" again offered a VIP table for $15,000 and said: "All funds raised on the night will go to Labor's Federal Election Campaign."

The 2007 "Business Dialogue Forum" invitation listed a price tag of $5000, scheduled a function hosted by Ms Roxon,*

then the opposition health spokeswoman,
and included her photo.

A separate letter to join a "Business Dialogue" in the same year listed membership rates ranging from $12,000 to $102,000.

It is understood Philip Morris has not attended any of the functions and no money has changed hands....""

and there it is
again note mzz rocks-on...center stage
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 18 June 2011 9:37:39 AM
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also note the exclusions,...lol
everything else is ok...

but not 'developers and tobacco'
[thus the legalisation of gambling and prostitution]lol

""The latest letter included a form asking any donors to declare that they were not "prohibited donors" including property developers or tobacco companies.

Mr Dastyari said the letter was an "accidental error"".

yeop
as toney says sssshit happens
[especially when your lying down with dogs..that got the cash YOU NEED to sell the lIE...

[that there will be
LOL...'no carbon tax under a govt i lead'

what a joke..!

dont count out smokers anger with juliars
*LOWEST NUMBERS..IN 40 years...liars lie...go figfure

and nice peopole
defend the indefensable
cause what they got..isnt as bad as the fear they dont got

ya really think crimials are only on the other side?

its like i said..REVEAL how much...big business..
ALL BUSINESS..gives...xcompared to wHAT IT GETS BACK*

lets see the green-wash
stain the cash greener...yet who REALLY PAYS
well we only get EVER MORE TAX...and bailing out the bankers

follow the money*
taking money..for favours..is CALLED A BRIBE
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 18 June 2011 9:38:04 AM
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Poor One Under God, lost his money in trying to buy in bulk under ground tax free chop chop Tobacco.
Then put the boot into me for my thread Tobacco should we ban it.
Seems OUG thinks no one dies by smoking, that docs and all who say some are wrong.
Now here he sides with SHADOW MINISTER truly OUG thought you better than that!
See we are told, a stupid CRIMSONLY SO, move by some one within the ALP.
IS WORSE THAN.Wait for it.
EXCEPTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
FROM BIG TOBACCO.
OK Abbott's statement he wanted to be PRAGMATIC about this issue was not a bought and paid for thing? was it?
I want OUG to answer that, clearly he has more ability than SM, to reply.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 18 June 2011 1:07:42 PM
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