Sonofglion I respect your right to your views.
Strangely admire you for what you once claim to have been.
I can not resolve this however, do you claim understanding Intelligence, do you think of your self as well informed.
Then bloke tell me,why do you challenge my rights to my thoughts.
Above all, how can any intelligent informed understanding person, ANYONE, lay that claim that I am a party stooge?
No one,not even from your side, you by the way live CLEARLY on the conservative side of the fence, CONSTANTLY DEMANDS BETTER from their party.
Constantly BAGS his own team, excuse me bloke, but truly read my comments in both threads about cruelty to cattle, my posts in SM s slander of knives out for Gillard.
IF you do so, you will Begin to understand,maybe just a little of why I find your comments not worth while reading.
Last your intended path, even, well especially,if you are a green, betrays workers/unions/ 80 plus percent of Australians.
And is of great use only to the conservatives you are about to impose on us all.

Belly,

Considering some of the silly things that have been levelled at TA such as his taking off a couple of hours to do a political book signing on a funded tour, this is far more serious.

Nicola Roxon should have known better, and if she had declared it before hammering at the coalition for taking donations, she might not have egg on her face now.

SM,

I beg to disagree. She's not the one who's got egg on her face -
it's the ABC and the other news outlets and of course the Opposition
whose job it is to condemn every thing the other side does or in this case - did. The bar should be lifted all round.

Shadow Minister it may well be I am wrong.
Seems I am.
I have never expected balance understanding or fairness from you.
But I truly thought of you as a bloke with a bit of brains, if it is true you hide it well.
Given my link, you dumped on me often for not giving them.
Hope you have read it.
ROberts clear advice you say sorry and retreat, you like your real life Shadow Minister,still push this crying wolf rubbish.
IF as you claim, think on this.
ROXON COMMITTED A GREAT CRIME.
For not getting anything, how big is the CRIME for taking millions? and for your former Minster for health not stopping it,would Abbott except funding from just any one,
How mate can you sustain this insult to fairness decency and truth?
READ THE LINK FOLKS BE INFORMED

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/jacktheinsider/index.php
This link is for Shadow Minister but of use for any one bewildered by our country's politics

Lexi my dear, as Diogenes looked for an honest man (or woman) I do as well. I do not alter my ethical expectations no matter who is governing, so I can trash dishonesty and incompetence even when it emanates from the party I support.

Belly I told you my background, how you could think I am green surprises me, but if I were green I would not buy the bullsheiser of blaming and taxing the consumer. I would go after big business, as it was in the beginning before green became a fashionable persona accessory...amen. Belly the socialism that came to us from our British cousins is dead, here and in Britain, right and political left are indistinguishable when it comes to how they interface with big business. Belly I remember Balmain, Marrickville, and Woolongong , I went to uni with the current crop of pollies, I was disillusioned with the party twenty years ago, but they still held my core beliefs regarding global fraternity and equality, but not now. This is the old DLP mission statement, the sort of platform I wish both parties would embrace because it brings a humanity to our governance.

o Justice and equity in education funding
o Equal pay for equal work
o An independent pensions and needs tribunal
o Decentralisation of government and industry
o Increased budget outlays for regional defence
o Responsible environmental protection
o Support for life and traditional family values
o Capital grants for the family home and for granny flats attached to the family home
o A homemaker allowance and family tax splitting
o A universal living allowance or guaranteed minimum income based on reverse taxation
o Market and product diversification in trade
o Producer cooperatives and income stabilisation
o Long-term low interest loans for small business and the family farm
o Industrial democracy, worker cooperatives and enterprise profit sharing schemes

Re Roxon and her credibility and hypocrisy they are unchanged in my view.