Dear RObert,

Who knows what any pollie does as a private individual. According to my research - the ALP stopped taking donations in 2004 from the tobacco industry. But as you say - neither party has any reason to feel smug at the moment. I mean Tony Abbott will fight tooth and claw to hang onto the leadership of his party - but will anyone in their right mind really vote for a man who's even prepared to offer whatever it takes to keep the position. The same for our PM - her credentials in the way she got the job leave a lot to be desired.
Not a very good choice at present.

RObert I will judge you on another post here not your last.
Shadow Minister however is far different.
SM I would like to see your words that explain Labor,while being idiotic,taking NOTHING.
is more GUILTY than your group of professional complainers TAKING MILLIONS is not.
Why conservative past anti smoking actions,taken almost all over the world, are considered by you to be so good.
BUT Abbott thought long and hard, about supporting dealers in death, just maybe, bought and paid for support, and you overlook it!
TEA PARTY stuff mate! maybe criminal too.

Why is everyone in such a lather about Roxon/Abbott, etc.
Let's address the issue.
Is there any likelihood of plain paper packaging reducing smoking rates or stopping idiot kids from taking up the habit?
I doubt it.
The only rational means of achieving the outcome is to increase the tax on the bloody things.

Belly, you accuse me of lying. If so please point out what I have said that is not true.

As far as tobacco influence is concerned, the coalition has done more to stop smoking than labor, so in no way can be in the pocket of big tobacco. The accusation is even more hypocritical when Labor is found to be directly soliciting funds.

These are all plain to see, and if you can show other wise please do so, but so far have failed.

While I welcome you my Friend look at the threads title before insults, you have a point start a thread I will come.
Shadow Minister lies come in many forms, misleading is in my view such.
IF I [thankfully am not] was you, I would much prefer to be told I was trying to miss lead.
Than the only other outcome I knew nothing at all about so many subjects take your pick.

SM,

Kindly provide us with the link where Labor is currently soliciting
donations from the tobacco industry. And also a link telling us what
the Libs have done as preventive measures in making people aware of the hazards of smoking? Give us some evidence please. I for one can't imagine the Libs biting the hand that feeds them, so to speak. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.