Men and women evolved as complementary to each other..we each have attributes that complement the other.

It's only in the modern industrial setting that women find themselves in the position, with the aid of technology, to take on many of the traditional roles of men. In many ways this has served to heighten tensions between the genders as the line separating gender roles has become blurred.

....and before you jump down my throat, Belly, I'm not advocating that women operating in 21st century conditions should be denied the trappings and convenience enjoyed by their brethren. I do believe, however, that if we could all simplify things somewhat we might be a little more content.

Poirot

In addition, women competently took over the running of factories for the war effort in the 20th C.

Have always performed physically demanding tasks in more primitive times, working the fields with toddlers in tow. BTW the average 3 year old weighs more than a women is permitted to lift in the modern office. My sister could bench press her smaller, wiry husband - if she wanted to.

If so much is placed on sheer brute force, many men would not qualify as "equals" either.

Refocus Poirot,your first comment here read it again.
And you ask why I lashed out about North Korea.
Do you doubt that country, and others is popped up by China?
That life for every one,5 generations who never knew the world as it is, who starve to death exist enslave camps within a country that is a prison.
How many off us are true activists, join groups to try, at least that, to highlight that ALL WORLD POWERS have the blood of other country's people on their hands.
Not just America, not the worst America England was much worse.
I miss titled this thread.
I wanted to highlight half the worlds females are living as lessor beings.
For every story about men being better than women in some things the reverse can be true true in another area.
The fact we are talking about such, and not sexual slavery and a life of second class existence, has to concern us.
I can not, now or ever, stop highlighting the lefts faulty logic, it shines from them, constant dribble about America.
And blindness to the sins of Russia /China/nations in the Balkans and Africa, or Mexico's inability to control mass murders by drug gangs.

Belly

Why are you debating with someone as intelligent and thoughtful as Poirot? Do you expect 100% agreement from everyone?

Surely it is the "Is Mise"'s here in Australia and in other cultures who require the benefit of your deeply held opinions.

I applaud your concern for the women of countries from North Korea to Afghanistan. However, letting yourself lose your message due to minimal differences of ideology with Poirot is a mistake.

Belly,

I haven't got time today to get into a slanging match on this.

Yes, China has tacitly approved of Pyongyang's belligerence and their diabolical regime, and much of Mexico's woes stem from cross-border drug and gun running between it and the U.S.

I object to your labelling anyone who points out America's faults, as tacitly approving the bad behaviour of other countries. It's all about the hypocrisy of humans when they have power...and the same goes for all the women that are abused and maltreated in general.

If you bothered to read any of that article of the lecture by Vandana Shiva, you'd realise that it is the women and small farmers who have nurtured the third world, and that with the advent of globalisation and the consequent mechanisation and privatisation of food sources, that this has now been usurped in favour of profit,

Everything is connected and if you fail to see that absolute power is corrupt no matter who wields it, then there's no point in discussing this further.

It is because Poirot is a poster I expect better from that I let myself wander.
You mention another poster I mostly do not respond to.
I am as I am, can not would not change that.
Just as I truly fear such as Tony Abbott, hold the belief he is a total fraud, I fear the fragmentation of the not conservative side.
A world that is not looking for better, that excepts in any name, including a fable God, that females are secondary ,is unacceptable to me.
However I again BEG, that we not except such as north Korea,or Chinas blind self interest and total failures in human rights at home and in its near colony's, yes NK is a colony,would be part of the south without China.
Reading goggle news USA lead today to the claim 300.000 American girls as young as 13 are being forced into prostitution.
Now nothing against it if its what they want to do, but it is not , women are being exploited just because they are female.