Belly,

I've just noticed your self-righteous little rant in my direction.

I was merely introducing a modicum of reality into your fanciful commentary on the U.N. bombing Libya (?)....NATO actually, old chum....while ignoring North Korea.

I won't dignify your last sentence with a reply.

....and I'm not your " anti yank friend" dear.

"Why can humanity not have a human rights law system that works for all?"

Well belly, that's the question of the century, isn't it. Like you, I can fly all over cyber space and visit the four corners of the globe with ease. What I see in this world is dispiriting to say the least. People like myself and you, can stand off the planet and look down at the ant ball, with very concerning looks. Humanity is just a word people use to pretend that whats really happening isn't that bad, however realists or non-religious people, can see clarity with true visions of real time, without fooling our selves all is fine, and she'll be right mate!.....with feel good pipe dreams.

Houellebecq is in order on so many levels, I've lost count......and to call the human-race advanced, lol .....For some people on this planet, I wouldn't pee on them, even if they were on fire.

Angry you say:) No....passionate would be a more appropriate understanding, since my environmental stance has more abundant priorities than the care/need for human greed.

I always say belly....If Your Not Happy With Your World, CHANGE IT>

Who said we cant?

We all have our vested interests on this planet, and its true, we vote in some of the worst leaders humanity has ever seen, and that's why we all have to see whats going on, or it will just continue.

The philosophy of more humans the better, is now going to bite us all in the arse, and the greedy ones are to blame:)

India is the prime example of a world gone mad.

lea

Poirot, I have always had respect for you, still do.
But I fear you too, and what you stand for, every day of my life.
The modern green/left all too ready to defend any one who is anti America.
Ready to side step issues like this, but focus on views like yours about the inhumanity of A WHOLE COUNTRY owned and miss used in the way North Korea's despotic rulers, backed by China, do not bring the same contempt from you that the word AMERICA does.
How can any one, from the left especially, not be hurt deeply by the murder of so many.
Houlie you will never know what an activist does, far from just talking.
Giving such story's air is just a start.
PS
Greens have announced they 12% of the vote,will kill the Malaysian refugee deal,4.000 refugees will remain in that country boats will continue to come and a Labor government will fall.
Know now why I fear such? just hope my party ensures its a both houses election the country needs an end to unfocused green rule.

Belly,

I'm not sure that I'm impressed with your style of debate, which is to seize the moral high ground and denigrate anyone who introduces another aspect to the argument.

I give you a perfectly plausible explanation as to why NATO and the U.S. tip-toe around North Korea, and the next thing you're labelling me all sorts of diabolical epithets and lumping me in the same corner with despots.

You seem to enjoy the wailing and gnashing of teeth, while never attempting to offer realistic ideas for their solution. Your original lament on the status of women in third world countries is pertinent - I take exception to you insinuating that someone like me has no interest in their condition....but your main intention here seems to be to trumpet your own altruism and political views and cast aspersions on anyone who you daub with red/green colours.

Read this Belly, it's about India and the plight of men and women:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/events/reith_2000/lecture5.stm

Re :
“Why is it we do not ever hear about this in our country.
Not targeting any one country ,over half the women in the world in my view are treated as second class humans.
But why do we not talk about it more.”

Belly, a good thread. Now you're sounding like traditional labor.

Why indeed –we seem to be overly endowed with persons who want to micromanage ever aspect of our lives from poker machines to parenting --but few seem to want to take up such gross inequities.

And

Re :
“Hi Belly,

Interesting thread. I've had major computer malfunctions so was incommunicado for a few days.”

Allah Akbar (and merciful too!)

Women can never achieve equality with men in some fields.
Take for instance working in a factory on a manual controlled lathe, a man will always produce more in a given time than a woman especially if the work is on piece-rate or on a bonus for production numbers.

This is a bit mundane of course, but a woman does not have the physical attributes to equal a man on such work, and this is only one of many ways in which females cannot achieve equality; they just aren't built for it.