Houel:”It's almost as if people think a life dedicated to beauty is obscene, but sport or acedemia is somehow all ok?”

I don’t think sports is okay. Or dog and cat shows or horse racing or – well lots of stuff seems really silly to me. Better add Live Exports to that.

Banjo:”The girls all get prettier at closing time'

Yeah the girls seem to believe it as well. I wonder what ridding the world of alcohol would do to the birth rate worldwide.

Banjo the thing about FGM... along the same lines why do we have 34,000 children in foster care and not 34,000+ abusers charged with an offence against a child?

IsMise:”It's called 'Penis Advantage'.”

Ahh... now I understand Penis Envy.

Col:”So the pursuit of “equality” is a complete load of bunkum – it is the pursuit of the chronically depressed and depressing, attempting to impose the source of their malady on others.”

Gosh. And lovely to see you. I guess it is the “equality before the law” that is important and that the law is being enforced. I doubt there is anything I can do about an overseas problem either which is why I’d prefer to start at home. Clean up my own backyard as it were.

Equality before the Law is the only equality that matters.

Physical in-equality is taken for granted as is separation in sport. We never hear of women athletes demanding that they be allowed to compete directly with men and this applies even when physical stamina has no advantage at all.

On Female Genital Mutilation: hom many of you know of the birth complications that this can and does lead to?
The natural elasticity of the birth opening is seriously reduced in the more extreme forms of mutilation and the resultant scar tissue leads to tearing of the skin and flesh or, if medical intervention is possible, to relief cuts having to be made, which lead to a further reduction in elasticity and more complication at subsequent births.

I can well imagine anyone's ire at this practice and their disgust that it happens in our country and moreso that it is apparently condoned by politicians afraid of a vote loss.
I have seen a friend, a senior nurse, reduced to seething rage after attending the delivery of a mutilation victim, and affected to the extent that she could not talk about it, even though well aware of the therapeutic value of talking over problems of this type.

Jewerly you probably have come across our Col.
He likes to be a bit rude if he gets the chance.
Is maybe an Englishman and on record as revering a woman.
Silly old bag she was too.
Margret thatcher.
Col has adopted the turn away or bury your head in the sand stuff.
Three wise Monkeys did that refuse to see to hear or talk about wrong.
Most importantly Col can be of use, he reminds us just how some think.
Here in his post/rant he says bugger the world I am ok.
And just maybe he is saying keep them bare foot and pregnant.
Men do not know how to express the roll women should have.
ME TOO far be it for me to say I do but now a confirmed bachelor I think I would do a better job than some.
Some Alpha males away from home have their own monogrammed aprons at home.
What color is yours Col.

Col,
Good to see your posts again.

Jewely,
Your info about 34000 kids in foster care certainly reinforces your view that we have much to do here. One wonders how this could be, when I have often noticed articles about DOCS not acting soon enough to prevent kids being harmed. No doubt you have seen kids with horrible infections and in state of utter neglect and abuse.

I wish you had not told us of the figure as it makes my concern about little girls having FGM seem insignificant. But rather than give up lobbying I see that FGM as a deliberate cruel act done purely for cultural reasons. Gutless politicians compromising our culture for the sake of some ethnic votes, and little girls suffer.

Like the kids that you see, the politicians have no excuse for not upholding the laws that they passed.

ISMise:”Physical in-equality is taken for granted as is separation in sport. We never hear of women athletes demanding that they be allowed to compete directly with men and this applies even when physical stamina has no advantage at all.”

Mostly gymnastics was my thing and no, no male could compete. I will however never again play hockey against a boys team, they are taught to hurt. I didn’t realise until I was told recently how they teach footy here to boys – grab and twist nipples as well as other little painful tricks – hurt them as it puts them off balance or something.

“I have seen a friend, a senior nurse, reduced to seething rage after attending the delivery of a mutilation victim, and affected to the extent that she could not talk about it, even though well aware of the therapeutic value of talking over problems of this type.”

I bet, I felt sick recently seeing what the soldiers do to the women in the congo. I think it is to demoralise communities that they mutilate the females in that situation. On the other hand does this mean women are more valued in the Congo for them to be used as a weapon?

Bellybabe:”Jewerly you probably have come across our Col.”

I have Belly and the only thing that used to buffer me from being distressed when he often slapped me down was that it took so long to look all the words up to find out what he had said to me. Each message was a learning experience.

“Here in his post/rant he says bugger the world I am ok.”

True and I’m usually okay with that as long as those who say it do no further harm. He probably looks after his own very well, now if everyone would do that....

MSE,
I, for one, am aware of the ongoing problems as a consequence of FGM.

Thank you for giving the matter some oxygen. The more people know the better.