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Are we witnessing the birth of the "Islamic Republic of Egypt?"

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Belly,

"If America pulled the strings, was the puppet master claimed here, an Islamic republic would not be a possibility, it however is. "

That's where your reasoning falls short....America as a former string puller is precisely the scenario that results in an attempt to bring about an Islamic republic.
Remember that the Shah of Iran was installed with the assistance of the CIA in undermining and overthrowing the "democratically elected government" of Iran in the early 50's....the result, in the late 70's, was an Islamic republic.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

I suspect it is no longer policy to do so..."

Why would you suspect that, Belly?

Iraq?.....Afghanistan?......
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 12 May 2011 7:02:44 AM
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Poirot, sorry but you look a long way back to hang America out to dry.
Look further see the sins of France and England there too.
Can you tell me, do you trust the other side?
Thoughts on them?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 12 May 2011 2:06:06 PM
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belly asks for thought on 'usa/briton/france'
lets just say the g7
call them...'them'

but its more that just g7
or the new g20...or that new alliance
china japan korea...

not even the eu/un/class of 72
or the bilderbergs..or the masons
or any of the other...'them'

them are charged with protecting their patch
those not doing it will look..for ways to..'get at'..others turf

when the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA...[USA}
was formed...there were those who founded a shadow of usa
called simply 'america'...many cant tell the difference..

one is there to serve the people

the other a shield for those seeking
to hide the truth of what 'america'..is all about

or what usa could really be

if

it put
as much effort..as it has put
into america's/war...

[into making the united peacefull prosperous states
of the god ol us....[leave off the A]

ie reaped..the true intent of usa
bringing...the US...
our earned..fruits of peace

instead of building for ever/more war
how depressing...[war ever-more]

peace not pieces
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 12 May 2011 3:08:48 PM
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or MAYBE we are witnessing the birth of
PALIStIEN..islamic demoncarty of pale-stein

Egypt Activists Plan
15 May....
&...*March To Gaza
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/05/egypt-activists-plan-15-may-march-to-gaza/
By: My Catbird Seat

Since its announcement,

the initiative has been described by various online groups
as “The 2011 March of Return,” “The Palestinian Refugees’ Revolution,”

and, in some cases,
“The Third Palestinian Intifada.”

Buses will depart from Cairo’s Tahrir Square
at noon on 14 May and then meet up
with more protesters in Suez.

but where
when the flotilla to gaza
meduia silence speaks volumes

the arabs are declaring peace
freespeech...and the right

to dis-obey
unlawfull orders

peace not pieces

ps
why the tanks in gaza?
http://presstv.com/detail/179435.html
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/10/a-time-for-truth-bin-ladens-death-wont-end-the-war-on-terror-until-americans-understand-the-threat-was-always-us/

anyhow you gotta love this

http://dailybail.com/home/raj-insider-trading-verdict-guilty-on-all-14-counts-billiona.html

lest we forget
http://empirestrikesblack.com/2011/05/911-bin-laden-confession-video-mistranslated-and-manipulated-by-the-cia/

the times may be a changing..
but lets finish with a joke

http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html#idc-cover
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 12 May 2011 5:17:20 PM
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Human Rights Concerns in Post-Mubarak Egypt

Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011

by Isobel Coleman (Council on Foreign Relations blogger)

http://blogs.cfr.org/coleman/2011/05/11/human-rights-concerns-in-post-mubarak-egypt/

EXCERPT:

>>Today, Human Rights Watch has staff on the ground around the world, shaming governments with their research and advocacy. In Egypt, Heba Morayef has been following events closely, sounding important alarms about continued human rights abuses by the military leadership. “We are not seeing a transition to a respect for the rule of law,” worries Morayef. Since February, the military has tried and sentenced more than 5,600 civilians in military courts, many of them protesters arrested in Tahrir Square. “The vast majority of the cases involves civilian crimes, like theft, and should go to civilian courts,” >>

As worrying as the military trials is the government’s censorship of the media. “There are clear red lines when it comes to exposing military abuse and torture,” says Morayef. … Morayef draws attention to the high-profile case of blogger Maikel Nabil, who was sentenced last month to three years in prison for “insulting the military establishment.” …General Ismail Etman, head of the Morale Affairs Directorate of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces…pecifically denounced his calls for an end to military conscription, saying such talk has a negative effect on the youth of Egypt.

As I wrote in a CNN piece in March, Egypt is in a tug of war for its future. On one side of this divide stand the largely secular, leftist, urban, youthful leaders of the Tahrir Square protests; on the other stand the old political elements of the Muslim Brotherhood and the military-backed remnants of the National Democratic Party (NDP), as well as large swaths of conservative rural voters. The playing field is definitely not level between these two sides, with secular youth groups already quite marginalized….>>

END EXCERPT

No sign of an "Arab spring" here
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Thursday, 12 May 2011 5:23:47 PM
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Sadly yes Steven.
OUG,no way around it mate you should reconsider your posting style.
It has been highlighted that you seem to have two different styles.
One is quite well put together and rare.
The above effort is in my view likely to be you talking only to your self.
The first line of post one wearied me, I could no see it getting better and did not bother reading more.
My request, of you if you must but in fact Poirot, was to talk of those wonderful honest clean as the driven snow anti Americans in the middle east.
You should consider this, do some of your posts respect your self? highlight strongly held views, and do you want people to read them, then mate compare your posts,not with mine but every other poster.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 12 May 2011 5:48:58 PM
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