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The Forum > General Discussion > Are we witnessing the birth of the "Islamic Republic of Egypt?"

Are we witnessing the birth of the "Islamic Republic of Egypt?"

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Ammonite

A few points:

You write:

>>he [Steven] needs to believe that everything corporate is good>>

I don’t know on what you base that statement but it is untrue. In fact it is close to being the opposite of the truth.

You write:

>>which [IMF] you now claim you would liked to see disbanded - nice back track there.>>

This is no “back track”. I’ve been thinking the IMF and World Bank should be disbanded for decades. (Yes I am that old)

You are entitled to your opinions. But if you make assertions about me it would help if you could back them up with some evidence. You have none for these.

You have completely misstated my views.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 14 May 2011 12:26:14 PM
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DEVELOPMENTS IN EGYPT

The Muslim Brotherhood and various Salafi sects appear to have signed a deal ahead of the upcoming Egyptian elections.

Muslim leaders: We want an Islamic state:

http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/node/431967

>>…Salafi spokesman Abdel Moneim al-Shahat said Islamic movements are uniting in order to preserve the Islamic nature of Egypt.

“God’s words must rule and Islam must be in the hearts of the citizens,” …

And:

The Muslim Brotherhood's Salafi pact puts Egyptian Christians in great danger

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/michaelweiss/100087770/the-muslim-brotherhoods-salafi-pact-puts-egyptian-christians-in-great-danger/

>>The Muslim Brotherhood has announced an electoral coalition with a host of Salafi groups in Egypt, under the banner of seeking an Islamic state. “…

[…]

Among the Brotherhood’s new parliamentary partners is Jama’a al-Islamiyya, a Salafi group that played a role in the assassination of President Anwar Sadat in 1981 and recently advocated the formation of a Saudi-style “modesty police” for Egypt.

…Jama’a’s other claims to notoriety … include:

- Being cited by Ayman al-Zawhiri in 2006 as an affiliate member of al-Qaeda, a courtesy just reciprocated by one Gama’a official who proclaimed that “the assassination [of Osama bin Laden] will open the gates of Hell and set it face to face with the Muslims’ vengeance”;

[…]

- Killing 18 Greek tourists (14 of whom were women) outside a hotel in Cairo in 1996 because Jama’a militants mistook the travellers for Israelis;

- Killing 9 tourists and injuring 35 more on a bus in Cairo in September 1997;

- Killing another 71 tourists in November 1997 in Luxor.

Jama’a is said to have forsworn violence since the 1990s, …

[…]

…Gama’a’s alliance with the any segment of the Brotherhood will only be met with alarm by Egypt’s 8 million or so Coptic Christians …
[…]

Naguib Gabriel, the head of the Egyptian Federation of Human Rights, said in mid-April that his office is now fielding “at least 70 calls per week from people wanting to know how they can emigrate”.

And there you have it: Islamist moderation in Egypt can be measured in exit visas.>>

Doesn’t look good.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 14 May 2011 4:34:10 PM
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Steven,

"You too easily buy into the stereotype of poor ignorant Blacks being cheated by smart Whites."

On the contrary, Steven - I have all the faith in the world in Black and Brown people. In fact, I'm a tad indigenous myself (my father was American Indian).

You're the one stereotyping South African Blacks and accusing them of graft and ineptitude. You're the one who totally dismisses the (smart?) White de Klerk government's contrivance of an arrangement to frustrate the ANC and thwart them in their attempts to enact the Freedom Charter. You ignore the hindrance and obstruction visited upon the new government by the steel claws of the IMF, World Bank and other Euro/American controlled institutions.....and the best you can do is accuse me of a racist slant.....

You are entitled to your opinions. But if you make assertions about me it would help if you could back them up with some evidence. you have none for these.
You have completely misstated my views.
(sound familiar?)
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 14 May 2011 6:58:29 PM
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Poirot sorry to butt in, but this one had me ROFL

“On the contrary, Steven - I have all the faith in the world in Black and Brown people. In fact, I'm a tad indigenous myself (my father was American Indian).”

But that would only make you indigenous to America (and maybe not even that, if the Clovis peoples were around to testify).

And by that measure all of us are indigenous, even dare I say it, non-brown or black people.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 14 May 2011 7:25:38 PM
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Well, of course, SPQR, you have a point - but I'm sure you get my drift.

It's intriguing that you are so easily induced to ROFL - don't get out much, eh.

It's also intriguing how that interacting on this thread seems to brought home to me just how much time I waste squabbling on this forum.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 15 May 2011 7:55:52 AM
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spqur...indigenouse means...living-life.../without culture
in short a tree could be said to be
indigenouse in its 'place'

or a human [without their culture]..
is clearly indigenouse to somewhere.

idiginous is the means to take a cheap shot at abo
[ab-origonal][alpha/beta/origonal]
calling them..

raised..without the benifit
of an ongoing *culture..[indigenouse]
is one of the most clever forms of racism i have found

but you distract from the main point
and hope you get back to the last posted point
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 15 May 2011 8:03:27 AM
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