Dear Steven,

Thanks for the links and this thread. It goes to show that absolutism is far from dead. Indeed, it rules the minds of a great number of people in the world today, most dangerously so in the Muslim world (and in the incipient American theocracy - see Kevin Phillips's book of that name). Such absolutism nearly always results from strong religious faith, and it constitues a major reason for suggesting that religion can be a force for evil in the world.

Belly writes

'In the end humanity must take responsibility for holding on to fables and Gods in the name of fear and superstition.'

No in the end humanity has no right to judge that these murderous Islamics are doing wrong. It is only their opinion. Humanity without the living God has no basis for any morality. We see that being worked out by Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, abortionist and numerous others that rejected the fact that they were and are acountable to God.

More reading and a very good interview on the ABC is interesting.
I seem to have got it partly wrong.
Seems likely the Army is sitting on its hands, even promoting some trouble.
A very real chance exists they want it to get bad enough for them to seemingly save the country.
Crack down,take total control and keep it.
Csteele I concede both groups are often wrong, no Muslim extremist group is more so than this one however.
Unsurprised at your stance, fact remains without any God we would not have to fear the future of this country.
I am,no way around it, as always,amused by your fears concerns and defense radical groups.

we all got our own theories

i figure that the people are learning to tell truth from lie
and liars wil be held to account

lets face it
the many troops
outnumber the orificer class

see how the vidio [obominations latest 'hit'
has ben proven WRONG...by the people
who know the landlord
ISNT obama..[nor osama]

to wit the vidio
isnt osama bin lid
but*
...*is his landlord

Osama Bin Laden:..[tape]..
lanlord fraud..
Pakistan's scepticism over videos

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078

The BBC managed to find someone
who identified the old guy..*in the video

LOL...he turns out to be...*the landlord*!
http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20110504/109544.shtml
pay the rent...lol
http://yayacanada.blogspot.com/2011/05/yo-conform-or-die.html
blah blah ha ha
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/05/osama-bin-laden-%e2%80%93-the-fight-over-pulling-the-trigger/
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/05/60-minutes-of-deception-from-obama.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13329078
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=45852&Cat=6&dt=5/9/2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZjKKUEHTKk&feature=player_embedded#at=71

and so it begins
http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/08/so-it-begins-sen-charles-schumer-proposes-increased-security-and-no-fly-list-for-amtrak-trains/

there comes a time..that leaders must
either lead for their people
or be bannished

those who dont heed the egsample
well their time..too will come...!

There's also an argument these 'clashes' are symptomatic of a certain sense of 'lawlessness' from the people involved as a result of the overthrow of government.

The USA/Israel created the despot Mubarak but Mubarak had not the stomach to attack Iran.Hence Mubarak had to go.Currently the neo-cons are trying their best to install a new despot who will do their bidding.Hopefully the people of Egypt have wised up.