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Graham, if you don't publish this I shall nuke you!

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Are you scared? Do you feel intimidated?

I think it reasonable to assume that if you do publish this it won’t be because you fear I shall nuke you. You will reckon that an essential prerequisite to nuking anything is the possession of nukes. You will also calculate that I don’t have any and you would be right.

I bought the Australian today and saw the following page 1 headline:

AL-QA'IDA THREAT TO STAGE NUKE HELLSTORM

QUOTE

>>AL-QA'IDA has threatened to unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" if its leader Osama bin Laden is captured or killed, according to a vast cache of secret documents detailing the interrogation of more than 750 Guantanamo Bay detainees that was released by WikiLeaks yesterday.
[…]
According to documents … a senior al-Qa'ida commander claimed the terrorist group had hidden a nuclear bomb in Europe that would be set off in the event of bin Laden's capture or assassination.>>

END QUOTE

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/wikileaks/threat-to-stage-nuke-hellstorm/story-fn775xjq-1226044716503

Are you frightened?

Maybe detainees in Guantanamo did tell their interrogators AQ would unleash a “NUKE HELLSTORM” if their leader was captured. Maybe some of the detainees believed it. If you’re deluded enough to join AQ in the first place who knows what you’d believe?

But let’s get real. I suspect that this threat is as empty as my threat to nuke you and for the same reason. I doubt they possess nukes.

I am certain that if AQ ever came into possession of nukes they would use them whether Bin Laden was captured or not. In fact my reason for believing they don’t have any is that they haven’t used any.

In similar fashion I am certain that if AQ had the capability of carrying out “chemical and biological attacks on Britain and mass poisonings across the US” they would do so.

But obviously, at least for now they don’t.

If this guff is representative of the “intelligence” gathered from Guantanamo detainees then the whole exercise is a waste of time and if the US interrogators believe it they are as gullible as any AQ recruit. Perhaps even more so.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 2:47:34 PM
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Oh I don't know about that Stevenlmeyer, we never foresaw planes being crashed into the Twin Towers, or the huge bombs being set off in peaceful Bali either did we?

I wouldn't put anything past crazy religious fundamentalist terrorists.
What I can't understand is why, with all the Allied force's supposed 'intelligence' and 'superior firepower' etc, they haven't knocked off this Osama Bin Laden already?

He has been on the run for years, and still no knowledge of his whereabouts?
Posted by suzeonline, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 10:29:29 PM
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There is a difference between intelligence and information gathered. The projections, threat assessments, fact checking and verification process that follows collection of information ultimately ends up becoming 'intelligence' after the process of analysis. This analysis does not end, but is constantly re-evaluated and tested with changing events. The goal is to sort through the 'noise'.

Well that is the theory. In real life intelligence is often used to support government decisions as we all know too well after WMDs.

However, it is possible that terrorists can access nuclear weapons. Why not, as separate to the issue of whether the information collected from GB was legitimate?

Pakistan has nuclear weapons, it is not unreasonable to believe these weapons could be traded on the black market. Wikileaks revealed Myannmar is developing a nuclear capability, North Korea already has nuclear capability and India has not signed the NNP Treaty.

Nuclear deterrence is still relevant while there is both capability and cause.

But am I scared. No, no more than already having allowed that which is possible.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 12:32:31 AM
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Well we can all relax Graham is safe.
Remember the first month of the Afghanistan invasion?
We got interviews from the other side every day, broadcast into our homes.
One leader sitting cross legged full of confidence told us his God was about to destroy America.
We only had to wait, it was immanent.
Lies are indeed currency in that part of the world.
As is intentionally educating people to not have a wide ranging education, not carry baggage from religions.
If they had such a bomb they would use it.
If it was only possible to use it in their own country killing as many of their own as enemy's they would still do it.
Side issue, is America still trying to catch the bloke, I think just maybe the under standing has been made that killing national leaders, all of them, may bring more militants to life.
So just maybe unless weakileaks has information he may live out his life hiding in rocks in Pakistan.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 5:08:35 AM
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there is a difference between threats
derived under torture

real and present danger..
and veiled threats wrought in anger
[or under drugs and threat or bribe to stop hurting you

here is a threat
in the zionist controled media
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA6vRC1xW_c

there are those who love freespeach
and those who seek to control who can speak
http://www.redress.cc/americas/csurasky20110423?

there are realisable fears
and delusional fear beat ups
and now drugs to control which believes what
http://www.thehindu.com/health/medicine-and-research/article1602180.ece

there is a propaganda putche on
http://rense.com/general93/hl.htm
dont egsamin
the sources too closely..

''she claims to have been incarcerated forty years age.
"It voss a death camp?" she exclaims.

She then stated that she remained there for four years,
although the Germans "killed everybody*... *every day."

She was then asked how she has survived.
"I hid in the camp," she explained,

"but I had nothing* to eat...*for three years."

What begs examination is whether the inmates at those camps died of the typhoid epidemics..that swept across Germany towards the end of the war,..or whether there was a deliberate program of extermination.

regardless one third were jew
unlike in palistein..where all are semite
but even the natzie didnt bomb their ghettos
http://www.endtheoccupation.org/article.php?id=2961

depleted uranium bombs mutate all people
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/582/790/Its_not_just_Fukushima:_Breast_cancer_in_California_Jewish-Americans_is_linked_to_depleted_uranium_used_in_the_1973_Golan_Heights_Yom_Kippur_war..html

yet the revenge goes on
http://news.antiwar.com/2011/04/22/pakistan-fumes-as-us-attacks-continue/

we will often hear 'mission accomplished'..
but who's mission

http://truthiscontagious.com/2011/04/23/carving-up-pakistan-the-balochistan-gambit

"Pakistan in particular has jointly built a new port with China in the coastal city of Gwadar in the southern province of Balochistan.

This port serves as a potential terminal for a north-south transit corridor to transport oil and goods directly into Chinese territory via the northern Gilgit-Baltistan region of Pakistan.
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 7:54:01 AM
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Al Queda is probably an invention of the CIA.They have presented us with multiple photos of Osama and they all look different.http://patriotsquestion911.com/

The real nuke danger has already happened Steven.It is called Fukushima.You can fool most of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 8:12:07 AM
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