One aspect of your conspiracy fantasies, Arjay, that seems to go perpetually unremarked, is the interdependencies that now exist, in our most connected of worlds, among both friends and enemies.

If Country X - say, China - destroys the economy of the United States, what does it achieve? It removes from the market their biggest customer. That would immediately create economic chaos within their own borders, and bring upon themselves massive hardship.

Why would they bother?

If Country Y - say, Israel - nukes the Middle East oilfields, what does it achieve? It cuts off the US oil supply, which would probably get them crossed of Obama's Christmas list. Or Hanukka list, whatever. Certainly they would cause sufficient damage to the US economy that the Fifth Fleet would be immediately homeward bound, leaving Israel to the tender mercies of a whole lot of very cross people.

Why would they bother?

And what should another trillion dollars profit an international bankster, if he can't get home in time to see his daughter's school play (see: any number of corny Hollywood movies).

Why would he bother?

as usual some good questions
pericules quote"'what should another trillion dollars
profit an international bankster,..if he can't get home in time to see his daughter's school play""

excellent point*

but the thing is the bankers are in a huge hole
they must make the economy SEEM to be growing
or we all go bust

thus the fed lending like crazy
intrest free...'paid' for
with govt bonds getting[paying]..2% intrest

BOUGHT by the fed reserve bankers
by monetory easing..[ie printing ever more 'money']
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/04/frumforum-its-fair-to-say-that.html

the stock market prices are a sham
most of the trades are recorded..but not proceeded with
[yet still show up in the news..as a percentile increase]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1381401/Facebook-early-investors-want-offload-1billion-shares.html

but its just shuffling arround the same paper
there is no real product..under pinning the trades
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/us-economic-growth-pared-to-18-percent.html
ie no value[no real;value..is being created]
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-28/india-narrows-its-choices-for-order-of-126-warplanes-saab-says.html

let me put up some links
its depresive reading..

[but note i have put up a 'cure' of sorts]
and yes its radicle..the fed needs to give back
control to some govt oversight body...

as well as let capitalism's laws take place...

[with govt underwriting any fall .
.restricting the loss of real values

of that which will get liqidated
to arround 44%...current market values]
and keeping workers[consumers] incomes going
http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/27/news/companies/walmart_ceo_consumers_under_pressure/index.htm

govt of course will keep most of the industry 'running'
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4388&page=0

but first to catch people up
i would say go to here
http://whatreallyhappened.com/

the real problems
http://snardfarker.ning.com/xn/detail/2649739:BlogPost:373960?xg_source=activity
oil/gold silver..food
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/americans-are-preparing-at.html
things they think people will still NEED to buy
its all going up
investers looking for a safe place
http://knucklz.com/2011/04/28/boosted-profits-69-percent-from-a-year-ago.aspx

this will cause inflation

AND THEN
then soon..hyper inflation
but its a two sped ecomony

so we see stag/flation
dont worry you will soon see what that looks like

[more..in no particular order]

gold/silver prices are rising
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/52-to-56-silver-by-mid-year-update.html
we know what that means
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-27/gold-climbs-nearing-record-on-investor-concern-currencies-to-extend-drop.html

more signs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11cXXwUd1A
[its cause is quantative easing..too easy fiat paper[credit]
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14732

[easy money looking for a value..a return]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrKfP34xi1E

others just hanging on to a "resource"
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/Russia-bans-petrol-exports-afp-3212564672.html
saving themselves first
http://netrightdaily.com/2011/04/iceland-declares-independence-from-international-banks/
"Austerity" = "Making the poor pay for the crimes of the rich" = "Class warfare."

failing resouces
Chrysler To Repay Bailout[loans]
With Bank Loans, paid for with its own paper/Bonds

Chrysler says it will take out bank loans
and sell debt..later this quarter to repay $6.6 billion in bailout loans from the U.S. and Canadian governments...

people still wont buy cars
[they got no jobs]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/27/us-nokia-idUSTRE73Q1XH20110427
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic?

even student debt semed safe...lol
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/04/student-loan-debt-hell-21-statistics.html

fenma camps will open soon
[see the back pages]
read the tea leaves
http://weeklyintercept.blogspot.com/2011/04/petraeus-to-cia-completes-cheneys-dream.html

lets talk about drug money[cia]

learn to laugh
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/04/parody-on-obama-budgeting-by-ray.html

liars/frauds
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/the-dog-that-didnt-bark/87324/

lets not see the sax marburg..[hrh]..link
recall gold-man sax[see previous links]

all that lost info
got your head[info in a cloud?
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-lost-data-2011-4

they planned their excuses well
[and that wasa this mornings news
by tonight who knows]

thanks very interesting

perry cules
you know quantitive 'easing' has failed
the so called trickledown affect..simply speaking dont trickle down

so its time we tried QUALITIVE easing
[as mentioned at the link]..by adding a '0'
to all coinage..

ie we bailout the poor..
for whome coin still holds a value

not the rich with 'quantity' [quantitive easing]..of credit and paper
that they 'invest' in resources ..or take overs..[that dont add econominc value..only increases monetry prices

by driving up the cost of fuel food
and other consumables and value assets like gold silver etc

top down trickle down affects has failed hugely
its time govts say ther sence in adding value to cents
all of a sudden the poor got spending money..they can consume ..can pay off debt...

ok the adding of two '0'[zero's] was more fair
but could be phased in..after govts legislated for it to be disbursed out in wages...[maybe even laws against instuiitutional hoarding]

how hard could it be to force banks and big business to declare their holdings[over night]..just like a stocktake]..and govt the next day begins isuing it iout to the people

with the one zero the extra caution isnt needed
but with the double zero super boosted qualitive easing..it becomes a must

paper values stay the same

and if ya still think even our govt isnt in a mess
in the excitment of the rot royal mar-rage
our treausuror revealed

""the biggest govt debt ever..""

so much for sur-plus
its currently slurp puss you taxable peons
having to pay ever more taxes to pay govt debt off

just*yesterday
while the media was suitably distracted
with royal pr and missoginist photo call proto-cull

Steve it is six days from the last post.
But looking back it seems your thread nearly forecast the future.
Not the only one.
Look again at one talking about changes in the middle east.
And the actions following that threads start.
Interesting stuff.