What does bob brown save, the planet, Australians , stamps, housing, and its affordability(shelter), money, pensions, others, koalas,trees, soil, novelty items,art work, food, company, goodwill at less than 7%?

Well I did say only 2% truly understand politics, thanks for the confirmation.
Last night, read any NSW paper,Marickville council with drew its support for that boycott.
An inner city multi cultured area bad words got thrown around,in Arabic and English cowards was one word.
My idiotic party members who supported it in my mind prove the need for party pre selection in electing candidates, these 4 should not be in the town hall mop and bucket in hand.
Far from mainstream Australia and further from reality this miss mash of fools was not elected to make Foreign policy's.
But in some ways is the very best evidence the greens are not just a conservationist party.
In the minds of rural Australians they are doing much more harm than good.
Rather like the thought that I a mainstream Labor supporter could be called conservative.
Remember harsh but true,tell me it is not, for every green voter nearly eight would never consider voting for them.
This is not Sunday football ,not my team or nothing, it is our country's future and in time greens will migrate to yet another party as theirs is increasingly infested with fools.

Belly,

How do you think about the carbon tax, now that the unions are giving it the finger, and now that 59% of the population is against it.

I believe that Juliar was against the carbon tax, but in desperation agreed to it to get the support of the greens. She is now paying the price.

She has effectively sacrificed the long term credibility of the Labor party for personal power.

SM, err, Gillard is not 'the' reason for the ALP to lose all/any credibility, that honour is spread amongst many, including Juliar.

The rot set in years ago, and the ALP has been in steady decline ever since.

I know, I was once a member.

But, Gillard has put the icing on the cake, as it were.

She is incompetent, and untrustworthy, totally.

I care not about a carbon tax, and certainly not one that the ALP-Coalition would agree on.

If anyone at all is interested in reducing carbon, then that means reducing consumption.

That means redesigning our entire global economic system, which I would support but will not be done.

I hope the carbon tax fails, but not for the same reasons as you and others here.

Abbott has no answers either, and will never understand that our very 'success' needs to be questioned.

He has neither the IQ nor the vision to 'think ahead'.

He is as dim as Gillard, and as useful.

A test of courage is being failed within the ALP.
Gillard can not win an election, she was against the ETS she should have supported it and only it.
I think her leadership is putting my party on the benches your team now hold,and destroying trust for a generation.
Just consider this, if Rudd was so bad and if Gillard loved my party as much as I do she would have fought him.
We will have an ETS Abbott may well introduce it, after all the man has no intention of keeping his word.
That test demands Gillard go, a double election be crafted and let the cards fall as they will.

TBC I wish I didn't agree with you, but I do.

All a tax does is raise revenue - we need a set of procedures to transition from fossil fuel dependency to sustainable energy. However, it goes further than that; the excessive packaging, overly processed food, private ownership of seeds and other food crops. Actual genuine choice for consumers so they can actually utilise the market place and a government to be the foundation for this.

And private companies that think long term rather than short term for the benefit of all - companies are only made up of people - don't they have children too?