""Peter Costello has built a myth around himself,..Not only did he not have the guts to stand up"""

POT/KETTLE

""He just did not have it.

So I am not one who comes in here
and swoons about Peter Costello.""

YET JULIAR LORDS HIS NAME
and jonnies

""Peter Costello...watching the money roll in from the mining boom..[carbon-tax]..and doling it all out on tax cuts..[poluters-subsidy]..that were doing nothing to build this country for the future.

You may understand..
I am not a fan..of somebody who is weak.

I am not a fan..of somebody
who does not look after the country well.

I am not a fan..of someone who delivered this*.

This is what Peter Costello delivered:
a failure of investment..in this country under the coalition.""

note*..no mention/concern.. of workers...NOW

""Less than two-thirds of profits
were ever reinvested in this country....LOL

""So investment did not come in.""

but the tax..will leave

""Our productivity growth was at the bottom of the OECD.

..manufacturers share fell from 23½ per cent to 17½ per cent.

The things that you make,""[or the cash you take?]

.."*the things..that are the knowledge industry,
fell under the Howard government.""

now..its kill the tax'payer
[pay as you earn'].. cash-cow

""There was a failure..of competitiveness.
There was a failure..of balance""

now a failure..to protect..propriotiously

""because you ripped $30 billion
out of the wage share in this country..

*and you put it into the profits of big business..lol..through WorkChoices.""

just as you*now..shall rip out..36 billion
to gift to carbon/cash crediters
[capitalists]

"That is what you lot did,
so do not come here..with your hypocrisy
and lecture us..about cost-of-living issues.

The biggest problem..that you had
was a failure of sustainability.

You know John Howard..*wanted to bring in..*a price on carbon.

*You know..he wanted a trading/scheme
but..he could never get it up""

lol

""because the extremists were there.""

denialists?

""Why did he want to get it up?

At least Howard..did recognise what the scientists were saying
because he was getting..the advice from the scientists."""

SORRY MATE GARNUT
is an e-con0mist

the science is flawed
greehouse gasses is not limited to ONE gas alone

OUG gee you go in hard there mate.
Now Gillard had a purpose in saying good things about John Howard.
He remains a conservative Hero, Abbott never will be.
No hero of mine but a fox like very good politician.
She wanted to point out, did very well, in telling us Abbott has turned both his own and his party's policy on its head.
OUG Garno got his job BECAUSE THE HARDEST bit is the economy and it is very hard.
Far too many who question climate change seem to think its AUSTRALIAN POLITICS that is the problem.
Look to world wide implications and world wide scientific advice pro and con.
Better advice than Abbott's yes no maybe but no exist.

belly
tell me mate
how much is the tax going to be in the first year

[truth is you dont know..even how much
your taking it on faith]

how much will it be the 2de year
again you dont know egsactly how much

[but this is about 'certainty'..
so we only know for certain it will be indexed..

it will rise EVERY YEAR]

if you dont know
vote no

thing is mate ..you truswt your party
even though the other party cameup with the idea
[and even the godhead himself couldnt sell it]

i would think ..that you would know[or care]
that if 'he' thunk it..he KNOWS
it will hurt the workers
more than the bosses

cause thats how his perverted little mind thinks

but you go ahead ol boy
support an unknown cost
support a howard tax on the workers

john howhard is laughing all the way to his carbon trading house

the bosses learned long ago
subvert the union
and you can tell the fools
dirt is cake
and they will love you
for lying down with dogs

its no skin of my nose mate[brother]
i got my tax on smoking..that wont change
cant wait till you lot ..get to pay the taxman.. too

it will still be based on lies

and wont change a single polution affect
from wreaking its inevitable cost.. on all our kids
but thats in the future

think mate they say no oil/coal in 30/40/50 years
by then all the solar cells will have died
and all the windmills will have broken

and we payed all that tax
for no permanant solution

[pride goeth before the fall]

Sorry OUG that post can not be answered other than this way.
On NO SUBJECT are my words not my own thoughts no one else's.
I stand firmly with man made climate change.
In those 50 years wind mills will fall over, but be replaced by new ones.
Solar panels will rot, and better ones take the place.
While humanity lives free we will progress, come up with new technology's and you can bank on it.
Costs rise tax's too wages do too.
My Dad earned $12.50 a fortnight once you spend more than that on a packet of tobacco now.
All this is true.
But that 50 years may be very different from the last.
Population will grow at the same or a higher rate.
Droughts then floods will come and go.
More of the African Continent will become desert.
Food famine may kill millions.
But the earth will be about the same size and suffering our neglect.
I fear we can not look truly at this world wide issue without politics getting in the way.

comeon belly..you been arround
im not saying your not doing your own thinking

but mate please think
how many times you took a car to a mechanic
and they said its this..[but it ended up being that]

dont you remember ''ITS THE OZONE LAYER"
[hole in the ozone]..remember the adverts showing deserts?

then they said the earth is warming
then said its cooling..but finally said its changing

please brother be honest with yourself
it this was a car what would you be saying to the driver

mate you been out to the outback
remember how huge it is..

how many shrubs grasses are sucking up the carbon..you been on the oceans..remember how big there are..there is such a thing as algi[and algal blooms]..all these things suck up carbon..they love it..cant live without this 'poisen'

we cant live without this 'poisen'
[talk about giving a rat a bad name]
it was the same thing with smokers[give them bad names]
thats how the game goes with taxing 'denyers'

its the same old tax them till they die game
only now they can tax the bubbles in ya beer..dear
tax the bubbles ...in ya soda ..pop

tax the air bubbles in ya cake and your bread
and still call it poisen

talk about grenhouse GASSES
yet only tax one of the least bad
the worst two dont get nuthin..
cause they are made by farmers and miners

and they got a nice bonus yesterday
http://www.openaustralia.org/search/?s=carbon+tax
http://www.openaustralia.org/search/?s=eu+carbon+tax

ok as usual having trouble finding it
meanwhile
from ya mate bill
http://www.openaustralia.org/debates/?id=2011-03-23.22.1

ok found it belly

its worth a reading
with open eyes
noting the miners making the 'other' poisen...[methane]
easilly makes up another 23 percent[add in the nitrouse oxides in the link..23%..[not named but quantified]

just mining and farming
make HALF THE 'POLUTION'

but dont pay ANY TAX

in fact get a NEW TRADING SCEME
http://www.openaustralia.org/debates/?id=2011-03-24.30.1

""The Carbon Credits (Carbon Farming Initiative) Bill 2011 fulfils an election commitment to give farmers, forest growers and landholders access to carbon markets.""

..note these are the big*poluters
getting bailed out

read on

""This will begin to unlock the abatement *opportunities
in the land sector..which currently..

*>>>>..*make up 23 per cent
of Australia’s emissions.*<<<<<GET IT?

*Australia has amongst the highest
*agricultural emissions of the developed countries*""

mainly via their generating *nitrous oxide
[300 times worse than carbon dioxide]
from nitrogen[see previous posts]
and landline link

BUT THATS NOT BEING TAXED...!

now you know why

we made "a promise"

thus YOU only talk of greenhouse gasses
but...*only tax ..ONE...*carbon..lol

se the joke old bloke
anything linked to howard is anti worker
pro big business and farming

tax the fools on their carbon polution
ignore the *big poluters
in fact BAIL THEM OUT

its the smokers tax scam
all over again

egsactly who
is talking about taxing farmers and miners

NO ONE...
get it yet?