The first step in a journey is the start, not the finish.
The question hings on one thing.
Is man made climate change true.
Abbott says it is.
Hockey said it is
Howard said yes
Turnbull said yes
I say yes
If we like Luddites fear change we suffer for it.
It is true until Labor and Liberal take planet conservation on board, we feed the greens.
It is unlikely I can change your views ,I proudly fall in to your idiot category, but fear not!
I would rather be proved wrong than stand by while my earth suffers.

belly today on bbc it was revealed the lie
that finger prints are 100% right all the time was rebutted

it turns out that circular reasoning
as well as cognitive bias was the problem

this is the same bias
that sees you asking just the one question

instead of questioning
if their SOLUTION is the RIGHT solution

see that none of those you claim your bias with are scientists
yet you claim a science based 'truth'

tony knows the science has been tricked up
but he dont know enough science to refute their trickery
so he has changed his story

think my brother
[this is the smoking thing all over again]
smoking 'causes cancer'..thus all cancer death
is smoking related*..and becomes a smoking statiastic

[yet only 25 percent is smoking related
ie see the smoking topic ..quoting your mate coombiya]

lets get the spin that speding causes accidents
ie all accidents are speeding related
[thats curcular reasoning]

black pitbull dogs attack human's
all dog attacks are pit bull related

se how the bias self sustains a lie?

i got caught with tom burns saying canabis legalisation
is labour party policy..[ie just vote labour in..and the drug law is gone]

well mate labour won
BUT the drug law wasnt gone
and the labrat party was in for too long
soon it too will be gone..but by circular reasoning the libs came

but the fact is all parties lie
especialy to get rid of a problem
or bring in a new tax

its sad you think thery know science
you know you dont..why presume they do

even if true[and its not]
the cure wont work..they should be agreeing
that a tax cures the problem..

but they dont..
they say look science..
i say look ...a big new tax

BUILT ON LIES/SPIN
AND BIASED CIRCULAR REASONING

If the government was to introduce the carbon tax at a level that matched the effective carbon tax of the industrialised countries (which I believe is about $4 per ton), then the government could claim to make an example without vandalising the manufacturing we have left. The figure of $26 to $45 per ton will have a massive impact on industry.

A journey starts with a single step. There is no need to start with a gigantic leap when everyone else is taking baby steps.

its annoying that its claimed only 1000 BIG abusers will pay
thing is they WILL pass it on..[with a little extra *as a bonus]

please note question..[d]

""Senate debates
on 24 Mar 2011


Rachel Siewert (WA,Australian Greens)
I move:

That the Senate—
(a)
notes that smoking is the largest preventable cause of death and disease in Australia
*and places our health system under severe financial strain;""

one needs think why

[if its a fact]
govt needs to move a motion

[thing is its not a fact smokers
"are straining the health system"]

""(b)
recognises that Australia has in the past
been a world leader in anti-smoking initiatives;""

the antismoking lobby
has huge power..in australia
mainly because govt is a major shareholder
see [d]

""(c)
acknowledges the important ongoing work and recent initiatives of Australian governments to reduce the burden of diseases caused by smoking,including plain packaging,advertising and point of sale bans, mass media campaigns the Tackling Indigenous Smoking initiative

*and cessation support;""....?

its funny how first we get a big new tax
WITHOUT CONSULTATION..virtually overnight
not knowing the real reasons[see abouve]
behind it..

[noting this was begun under howard..
first moved by liberals..sealed signed by labrats]
hurting mainly the poor

""(d)
expresses concern at the investment of more than $100 million of taxpayers money in shares in international tobacco companies by the Commonwealth Future Fund;and""

why needs govt seervants to hold 100 million in shares
except to get a major shareholder power..on the board
that nulifies the lobby

""(e)
calls on the Government to review
and revise investment criteria..as a matter of urgency
to ensure that the Future-Fund is invested into ethical enterprises that are consistent..with the health and wellbeing of the nation and not into tobacco.""

now the knife blade
has done its vile
lobby couldnt change things
even if it wanted to

100 million to raise billions
aint the public ser-vice
serving their add-vice empowerments..well

""Question negatived.""

whatever that means