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belly..it might be that big oil and big coal are 'behind' the protests
but it was people who decided to go[to imply we are paid stoooges is just sad mate]

yesterday i listend to a inteligent gent
ok sounded like a pommy but not a toff

he was/is a unionist
with a common british brogue/accent
[i think his name is cameron
he was speaking in the senet]

literally tearing chunks off liberal policy
naming numbers..naming and shaming
tearing great shards off the liberalisation of work conditions of the liberals

it contrasted with juliaqr praising john howards forsight
praising the former treasuror[i think juliar is taklen with howard]
she talks [sings his praises constantly..is pushing HIS CARBON TRADING SCEME]

to say she is prostituting
for the capitalists is being kind

im still looking for his speach
http://www.openaustralia.org/?keyword=house%20hansard&creativeid=1117913217&gclid=CMGSzPi5rKcCFQXabgoda1BHAA

it deserves reading
but jliars big new tax
mate thats just finnishing off howards dirty work

i got a fixed pool of funds
govt doubling the price of my smokes
or putting a big new tax on the allready poor

..mate thats a mongrel act
saying we are going to tax the big poluters
then getting their bill upon the poor
in their power bill and fuel bill

i paid my tax getting it..now they are stealing the rest of it
and only to make the rich richer

[only so the money men can trade credits..
and fix nothing but their bank accounts

tax the rich before the working poor are forced to eat them
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 6:49:45 AM
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belly asks why should we not lead
[after saying usa /europe are leading]

pm says china is leading
[in parlement question time yesterday]

so who are we leading[or following]
lets lose the spin[we arnt leading]

this whole thing is tied in spin belly
spain led..now they are broke]
italy led..now broke

the germans leasd us into food starvation
[turning farmland into SUBSIDISED petro farms]
their tax moneys are being spent in kenya
to rip up native vegitation and native farms and villages
to mono crop a weed to burn for electick power

[thats going tyo produce 6 times more carbon polutant]

how can you be so blindsided
one eyed
[by loving your party
by thinking your party can do no wrong]

the gren party loyalists are as decieved as the two party loyalists
its the blind leading the blind

how much of the stuff
cameron threw at the libs yesterday
has labour fixed up[near nothing..it made a few token changes..but the contracts are law]..you cant repair the egg howard broke

same with this tax
more of howards egg breaking

europs tax failed
the yanki tax
china is building more coal..generators
than green

the ten states]much quoted by juliar
..is only token..less than one billion..
[and our 6 states
shall pay 36 to 45 billion]..

cant you see its based on a lie

more forrests shall be destroyed
but the ocean is ignored..

the ocean cleans most of the co2 from the air mate
takes it into the deep ocean/current and stores much of it

..[there are rivers of methane down there]
but no one is talking about them

not one of your experts
so how relyable is 'the science'

we arnt taxing
ALL THE greenhouse/POLUTANT'SSSSS

only one..

[thats like fixing a hole
in a sieve and saying its fixed]

it just dont float
thus its spin
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 7:11:08 AM
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tracked down camerons words
http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2011-03-23.90.2&s=cameron#g95.1

[attacking the howard oppression years]
lest we forget

have previously posted juliar praising her god head [howard]
and how he was so far seing ..in trying to bring on a new tax on carbon..

its clear from comerons words govt is aware of the changes
it has only superficially tried to fix

proving the two parties
serve the same adgenda

[big busness /money
not the people]

the reds are in bed with the blue bloods
juliar is but one of their begotten children
[she loves john ...just as much as tony adores both

at least scroll up from this link
http://www.openaustralia.org/senate/?id=2011-03-23.90.2&s=cameron#g95.1

and be ashamed

they know
yet do nothing

but bring on the rest of the john how-hard..abuse adgenda
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 8:33:21 AM
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magorin [lib]quote
from link

""Labor Senator Doug Cameron urged the Prime Minister to move quickly on revealing the detail of the planned carbon tax..

..which we know nothing about;
we do not even know the parameters that are being set..

..saying that the debate would be “quite easy”
to win when the public was better informed.""

he of course is right and wrong
juliar kept the details secret
we need wonder why?

speaking of juliar...""urged the party to take on the emissions trading scheme. Then she talked Kevin Rudd into abandoning the emissions trading scheme.

Then she dumped him for abandoning the emissions trading scheme. Then she promised, before the election, that there would be no emissions trading scheme

and then she goes and introduces an emissions trading scheme.
Who is the real Julia?""

AS WELL AS A NEW TAX
giving us both burdens
[one to set a subsidised minimum price..
then to let the market rip..to all and more than the poor can bear]

""the Prime Minister made a speech in South Australia to tell us that the coalminers and the steelworkers may lose their jobs,

given the Greens want to shut the coalmines down tomorrow,
but we can retrain them and put them into green jobs—waiters at rainforest resorts.

That is what the coalminers will be reduced to.""

its interesting to note here
cameron starts talking at 4.39
finsished 4.54

thus talked 15 minutes

so lets hear end of current speaker

""I would like to go on but time does not permit—it never does in this place. We need a good 20 minutes on an MPI.

Eight minutes is never enough to go into detail,
but you know the detail. I have the detail here.

Costs of living are skyrocketing and you know it.

That is what the next election will be about
and the carbon tax will be at the centre of that debate.""
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 8:49:56 AM
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this speach will be repeated..many times..[in the future]

only then it will be a lib
[pushing the carbon tax button]..!

""It is hypocritical of the opposition to pretend—that is what they are doing—that they care about the living standards of working people in this country...That is the greatest lot of codswallop I have ever heard.""

""Watch them react in a minute
when I press the Work Choices button.*

""They are reacting already.
A smile is on their face;a smile which says,
‘Please don’t mention Work Choices..because you’ve got us pinged.""

""You’ve exposed the hypocrisy of the coalition.’""

just as carbon tax will EXPOSE labor complicity

""Don’t talk to me about looking after working families.
Don’t talk to me about rising costs of living
when you can set out to take away..the right of workers to negotiate with their employer to get a decent standard of living..""

and then the labrats continued the OPPRESSION
but read on..

[quoting]
""The Howard government’s industrial legislation,
it was good for wages,
it was good for jobs
and it was good for workers.

And let’s never forget that.""

should have mentioned how they
talked in average wage terms
not minimum

but then both parties are scummy

""I will tell you
what we will never forget.

We will never forget the impact of Work Choices
on the standard of living of Australian families.

We will never forget that because we know that you do not care.

You come here arguing about the standard of living
for ordinary working people and you really do not care.

It is all a mass of hypocrisy.
It oozes out of every pore of your body.

What was the impact of Work Choices?

Work Choices was devastating on Australian families’ standard of living—absolutely devastating...More than a million Australians on awards suffered a real pay cut of up to $97.75 a week,..almost $100 a week,..and you have the hide to come here and talk about the standard of living of workers.

You have absolutely no idea
about the needs of ordinary working people.""

funny how govts FORGET?
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 9:05:22 AM
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""Hundreds of thousands of workers
were pushed onto individual contracts.

Seventy per cent of workers lost their shift loadings.

You have got a responsibility to stand up and tell us how that squares off with protecting the standard of living of ordinary workers.

Sixty-eight per cent lost their annual leave loading.
Annual leave loadings went down the tube with the coalition.

Sixty-five per cent lost their penalty rates.
That is the history of the coalition and their so-called concern for workers’ standard of living.

Forty-nine per cent lost their overtime loadings.
That was your contribution to ordinary workers’ standard of living.

Do not come here and lecture us
about standards of living for working people.

Do not come here with your hypocrisy oozing out every pore.""

no we got that ourselves
pot/kettle two party blindness?

""Twenty-five per cent lost their public holidays.
That was your contribution to the standard of living of workers in this country.

More than 3½ million Australians lost protection from unfair dismissal.

*That was how you cared for workers in this country."""

and your saddling them with a
BIG BUSINESS CASH SUBSIDY

set regulated by capitalists
who have revealed how much they care for workers

""An unknown number of workers—they just could not be counted—
were sacked or treated unfairly and had no recourse during the coalition push on Work Choices and the implementation of that legislation.

So do not come here lecturing us
about standards of living

when you were the destroyers of workers’ standards
of living under Work Choices...""

and the labrats finnished it off for big money
show me the mining tax?

yes smokers got their's
but how about the BIG MINERS?

""Not only were you the destroyers of workers’ standards of living under Work Choices,..you were absolute economic incompetents when you were in government.""

POT
/
KETTLE
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 9:12:03 AM
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