Amber where specifically have 'we' been told not to sing xmas carols? It seems to me that Christians hide behind political correctness. Christianity cannot even face the fact that it is an immoral superstitious cult which is most active in the persecution of others. Christianity is as un-Australian than any other cult and is no less violent and hostile to non-cult people than Islam.

What people do in the privacy of their own home is their buisness , I dont agree that Muslims or Christians have a right to have their superstition affect other people.

Shutting people out of this country on the basis of their culture is just the core Christian value of persecution being excercised. The truth is Christianity is as just a threat to civilised society as Islam is. Neither could prove their claims of the existence of their gods in court. Both are peddling deception.

The answer is not to ban people of non-christian superstitions, of particular skin colour, of types of accents. The answer is not building prison camps so god can smite the enemies of the bretheren through the bretheren.

The answer is to ban the worship of all gods including Christian deities in public. Ban overtly religious people from political office. Ban the advertising and peddling of religion.

The zealots will find somewhere more compatible to live. Australians can get on with their lives without the constant threat of violence and persecution stemming from those who cannot handle reality with a paranoid and hysterical delusion of the end of times and those moved to madness with the paranoid feeling a ghoul god is stalking them , ever present, even speaking to them through signs.

Go to any church and watch any clergyman give a sermon it is like watching a snake charmer.

A Christian certainly is not in a position to judge a Moslem. As Jesus plagerised from Greek philosophers 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. Both superstitions are not only with sin , they have become sin.

Hi West
I’m sad to think you think so badly about Christians in general. Certainly fundamentalism in any religion including Christianity can be dangerous. Although there are bad apples in every bunch, most Christians I know are ordinary people doing their best, which makes them good people, in my humble opinion.

Your suggestion of 'banning all gods’ has already been done. It is ""called Communism.

Banning Christmas Carols has been done at some preschools in different States over the past 5 years, but now being thankfully …undone.

From Herald Sun 21 Nov 2005

Premier Steve Bracks yesterday gave his official encouragement for nativity scenes, carols and other Christian traditions. Jingle Bells can ring in classrooms around the state again after several schools banned nativity scenes and carol singing last year for fear of offending non-Christian children. "Those who don't wish to participate don't have to, and those who wish to celebrate in their own way can do so."

From today’s news.com.au (not specific to Christmas Carols, but Christmas and problems of religious differences in general)
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21113262-5007146,00.html
Nation at risk from tyranny of tolerance

AUSTRALIA'S long-term difficulty in dealing with the now politically defunct noun "multiculturalism" is not unique to this country. It is not even unique to this time......(I have omitted a lot of irrelevant paragraphs)

How many of you noticed that those Christmas cards you have no doubt recycled by now actually said Happy Holidays, and not the religiously correct Merry Christmas? Were the Christmas lights down in your neighbourhood this year?

It wasn't so long ago that Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore thought it was a good idea to cancel Christmas decorations in the city so - and how many times are we hearing this? - as not to offend Muslims. (end of quote...)

I wish you well

Dear Boaz
It states in the koran that god challenges man kind that if they could write verses like witch he has, and says to man kind you cant so don’t even try. what I am trying to get at is that hadith is written by men to control man. How come Sunni, shia, alowi, habashi, and so on, all think each other are wrong. when really they should be studying the koran not what some person has narrated. this is how the false leaders that are driven by anger (the number 1 enemy to all human kind) control the blind and stupid..
When you speak about Mohammed and his special treatment from god in the areas of sex I don’t quite understand what you mean. In the koran it speaks of equality between man and women. You must understand. In history the Arabs use to bury there daughters alive and Mohammed put a stop to it. To day Islam is not being followed the way it should.
Did you know that in war a Muslim is not allowed to kill a working man, women or children. Did you know that it is murder to kill in war if it is out of anger. Even if your enemy sword is risen against you and you killing him in self defence that bit of anger becomes murder. I belive it is what you read and how you interpret it god gives light to whom he pleases.
It is said in Islamic history that the prophet had give up all his wealth and lived out cast, stoned and spat at by the people of Mecca. He never waged war only in self defence of his people.
What would you call a person that believes in all three religions jew, christian and islam.
p.s. i was born a muslim, my perants and grand perants are muslims. I am not coating any thing with sugar, i am saying what i belive and what i have been taught i thank god i was born and raised aussie muslim. peace be to you and your family.

Nice post Kooree, good to see some sense injected into the thread.

But wait a few minutes and you will find yourself being lectured by a non-Muslim about what you really, really believe.

And it won't be couched in the sober, reasonable tones that you used either.

I hope I'm wrong, of course.

Looks like I was wrong.

Doesn't often happen, but it's great when it does.

Quite so, Pericles. Perhaps the simple honesty of Kooree's perspective as an actual Aussie Muslim is too much for even Boazy's paranoid racist fantasies.

P.S. Amber300: "How many of you noticed that those Christmas cards you have no doubt recycled by now actually said Happy Holidays, and not the religiously correct Merry Christmas? Were the Christmas lights down in your neighbourhood this year?"

Actually, I sold literally thousands of Xmas cards last year, and not one of them said "Happy Holidays". The Xmas lights competition was as enthusiastic as ever, although I think that people are starting to look for more sustainable alternatives to decorating their houses with energy-guzzling incandescent bulbs.