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USA gun massacre - we don't need guns.

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*45.000 of them, keeping the feral populations down, just for you, and you....and of course you.
And here's the big one....AT THEIR EXSPENCE(sic)!"*

Hehe I love it, Blue and his mates as our new Mother Theresa :)

Suze, I'd say that Blue is just having a lend of you here, for he
would know his claims are rubbish, but he does have a sense of humour.

Hunters actually interest me. Some of them pay a fortune to hunt
some trophy in Africa and elsewhere. Methinks its all tied up with
our genetic heritage. Go back 500 grandmothers, we lived in caves and
hunted. It still shows in genetic terms and genes influence behaviour.

I think its expressed in a number of ways. Some will want to go out
and hunt, it attracts them like a magnet. The businessman will go
out and try and make a killing. Others go to the football and freak
out over support for their tribe winning. Its all evolutionary
stuff, playing out in a different world that we live in now.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 10 January 2011 8:57:18 PM
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Yes Yabby, evolution certainly has a lot to answer for!
However, I am sure people these days can appease their primal 'killing' instinct by playing or attending sporting activities, or in everyday work life etc as you said.
Most of us have moved on from cave-man days.
This is called evolution!

Deep Blue may or may not be serious, but he/she seems very pro-gun to me.

Guns are available freely in most states in America because there is obviously a market for them amongst law-abiding citizens as well as the criminals.

If they cut out the easy availability of purchasing guns, then surely that would mean less chance of so many guns falling into the wrong hands?
If that means the loss of the old-fashioned hunting and gun-sport activities, then so be it. Human lives are more important.

Whatever the answer is, America and South America seem to hold the bulk of the gun capitals in our world. If other countries don't want to end up with the number of civilian gun deaths that they have, then we don't ever want to emulate them.
Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 10 January 2011 9:35:46 PM
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I'm with Suze on this one. Last time I checked the stats,
something like 100'00 people a year were shot in the US.
That is a huge figure. Yes well there would be, since there are 300 million people in the US, compared with 21 million, which only 59 people killed here per year by fire-arms.

Showing latest available data.
Rank Countries Amount
# 1 South Africa: 31,918
# 2 Colombia: 21,898
# 3 Thailand: 20,032
# 4 United States: 9,369
# 5 Philippines: 7,708
# 6 Mexico: 2,606
# 7 Slovakia: 2,356
# 8 El Salvador: 1,441
# 9 Zimbabwe: 598
# 10 Peru: 442
# 11 Germany: 269
# 12 Czech Republic: 181
# 13 Ukraine: 173
# 14 Canada: 144
# 15 Albania: 135
# 16 Costa Rica: 131
# 17 Azerbaijan: 120
# 18 Poland: 111
# 19 Uruguay: 109
# 20 Spain: 97
# 21 Portugal: 90
# 22 Croatia: 76
# 23 Switzerland: 68
# 24 Bulgaria: 63
# 25 Australia: 59
# 26 Sweden: 58
# 27 Bolivia: 52
# 28 Japan: 47
# 29 Slovenia: 39
= 30 Hungary: 38
= 30 Belarus: 38
# 32 Latvia: 28
# 33 Burma: 27
# 34 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 26
# 35 Austria: 25
# 36 Estonia: 21
# 37 Moldova: 20
# 38 Lithuania: 16
= 39 United Kingdom: 14
= 39 Denmark: 14
# 41 Ireland: 12
# 42 New Zealand: 10
# 43 Chile: 9
# 44 Cyprus: 4
# 45 Morocco: 1
= 46 Iceland: 0
= 46 Luxembourg: 0
= 46 Oman: 0
Total: 100,693

BLUE
Posted by Deep-Blue, Monday, 10 January 2011 10:09:46 PM
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I read about the little girl who was receiving a school award? from Gabrielle Gifford at the time.

Her life and future gone, and I pray she has no siblings in shock and grieving at the loss of their sister.

Not an enjoyable experience having guns pointed at one's head by individuals caught up in a power play or in an angry frame of mind, regardless of being shot either.

You are correct Suze, I don't wish to see our country's current gun law legislation relaxing at all in the future [its the minority that forced the disposal of guns and registers implemented] years ago.

Gun references should be placed under more scrutiny too; references can be given to any lunatic and the odd gun owner placed under pressure as the result of a social obligation or association in their lives [into giving those references]
Posted by we are unique, Monday, 10 January 2011 10:13:53 PM
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"Yes Yabby, evolution certainly has a lot to answer for!
However, I am sure people these days can appease their primal 'killing' instinct by playing or attending sporting activities, or in everyday work life etc as you said.
Most of us have moved on from cave-man days.
This is called evolution!...lol....You might want to have a chat with the US army, that's having a great time with their evolved sence reality...over in the middle east.

Deep Blue may or may not be serious, but he/she seems very pro-gun to me.

Oh you two are just hilarious:) Yes I was stretching it there a bit:)

*45.000 of them, keeping the feral populations down, just for you, and you....and of course you.
And here's the big one....AT THEIR EXSPENCE(sic)!"*

Deep Blue may or may not be serious, but he/she seems very pro-gun to me.
Suze..... Iam pro-gun to a point, and you lot just loving taking things out of context:) Bellies point of no guns in cities is of course commonsense; and just to add, gang-members are mainly the victims of their own culture in the US, and who will miss them. Some may see why Iam anti US to a point, or maybe not. Their culture seems to be a bad influence on many levels. Where starting to see it here...and this can not happen.

Yabby....feral cats was my main resentment, along with wild pigs.

I could fill this thread on what damage they have caused.

However, thank Q for your anti-gun stance...., I too do not want a US/AUST world here either.

BLUE
Posted by Deep-Blue, Monday, 10 January 2011 10:42:32 PM
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*Yes well there would be, since there are 300 million people in the US, compared with 21 million, which only 59 people killed here per year by fire-arms.*

Ok Blue, that is how many actually died, not how many were shot. So lets do the maths.
21 million is around 7% of the US population.

59 times 14, is around the 826 mark, compared to their 9300.
So we have less then 10% of their gun related deaths, an a gun
deaths per head of population.

Those kinds of numbers speak for themselves really.

Stuff the guns.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 10 January 2011 10:43:03 PM
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