You make my point for me, Csteele.

The Taliban had the choice of handing over bin Laden to the
Americans, they chose not to. The rest is history.

Dear Yabby,

Are you suggesting that if the Taliban had handed over Bin Laden the Americans would not have gone to war with them?

csteele I have never posted a link, find it hard to do so.
But both yesterday, and today, I said my source is/was the daily press, Sydney's two papers, the Australian, and headlines in goggle news all tell the storys.
Car bombs/human bombs, targeted new police recruits in Iraq killing 50 injuring 150 plus.
Today same story different targets,two car bombs one targeting children at a religious festival.
Now as drones target enemy combatants.
Car/human bombs target civilians or soft targets, I remain unconcerned at your complaints.
Yabby can answer for himself, my opinion is, IF Taliban had handed over the head murderer America still should have invaded that country, rid it of them, freed its people, given women a chance to be first class humans.
It may well be senility, but my childhood dreams for true equality of sex race and all humanity is still a wish.
If I challenged you to an Oxford style debate, and you drew the opposite views to the one you push here, could you do it?
A closed mind is not productive.

Csteele, the Taliban ran Afghanistan for years, I used to read about
their barbarity in the press. The US did not invade.

The US invaded a couple of months after 911. Fair enough.

Afghanistan had become the centre of Al Qaeda operations and
training, for attacking the West. That needed to end. They
were not just hillbilly tribesmen doing their own thing anymore.
What was happening in Afghanistan had global implications.

Dear belly,You wrote:
" IF Taliban had handed over the head murderer America still should have invaded that country, rid it of them, freed its people, given women a chance to be first class humans."

So when are we invading Saudi Arabia? Or does your rhetoric of freeing women only extend to those on the other side? A closed mind indeed.Police are used extensively against the Taliban so why are they not a legitimate target? Besides for a sizable section of the Iraqi population these are collaborators with the invaders.

As to your religious festival bombings, 56 dead compared to 18 when the CIA bombed the dinner for the religious holiday. Why do you claim women and children were directly targeted when from what I read the bombers drove directly at the checkpoints that were heavily manned by Iraqi soldiers? What report made that claim?

csteele this game is not new to me.
We hop from Lilly pad to pad, not addressing the truth.
Oh we try I remind you that this weapon is aimed at enemy combatants, you refer to civilian deaths.
Deaths that may well not be civilians, deaths that may not even have taken place.
You tell me I am hard to pin down,do not answer your questions, but never refer to mine you do not answer.
I understand this, opponents of the west/America/any thing, feed on rumors untruths lies blindness.
And that throwing enough mud sees a certain blindness, distrust for truth grow.
I love the insults about my concerns for women being selective, such charges are usually from the uninformed.
Or thrown knowing it not to be true to divert the subject.
However have no doubt, please I think the very left, the anti American groups are not remotely interested in a better world for women and indeed the victims of terrorism,including those who live in these country's and never know any better confined by rules that breed hatred.
You do your task well, unfortunately some will agree with you, few , a very small number,but fact is you skip over murders to harass America for having a better, more honest, safer weapon.
Yabby we wast our time, reality is unwanted here and truth is not getting air, hate needs to hide it to continue.