Jolanda.
For a start not all! Muslims are a threat to our way of life. Many love Australia as much as I do.
Jolanda lets call a spade a spade. Unlike some posters i have dealt with you before.
Your the lady who went on Andrew Bartletts web page about your trouble with the education dept.[ Right] We actually offered to help you with legals[ right] I posted some posts in support of what you had said at the time but they were not posted right? yes. I was good enough to send you copies of those posts./ right?
We asked you however not to go public with accusing Andrew of holding back on posts in suppport of you[ right? I explained at the time Andrew probably refused to put those comments of support up for you because they came from us and nothing to do with YOU? Isnt that correct? I told you if you did it would work against the animals.
DID YOU CARE Oh no its poor Little Jolanda this and poor little Jolanda that.
You then went public with it.

Knowing Andrew was pretty much only working with the Libbers and we were trying to open more Halal Plants to stop live exports. OK it was not your fault but Andrews but I warned you. It had NOTHING to do with you why he didnt post those comments of support. I also begged you to just leave it be. Tar! on top of that you posted on another forum NOBODY had ever offered you free legal help
Thats a Lie.
Again I have supported you to a point because your thread was going no place[right]
Wasnt it I who sent the OLO to you in the first place? Yes.
Why/ because Andrew Bartlett was NOT honest and NOT fair to you.
Now be a bit fair to animals.
Who cares who kills them and gets most of the money if it stops some of the barbaric treatment.
And! I repeat not all Muslims are plotting to steal our land. Many Love t too!

People against live exports. You are full of it and just like everybody else you want to present things to suit your agenda. You are not presenting things the way that they actually happened but I am not going to get into that with you. That is old stuff that has been done to death, that you bring up the past and present it in a manner in order to try to discredit me says alot about you.

You dont like it when I have a point and so instead of arguing with me you try to discredit me and make yourself out to be some sort of hero.

I have never said that nobody offered me any legal advice, others wrote that and then it was presented a though I said it. If you knew me well enough you would know that I dont lie. I dont need to lie.

I knew about OLO well before I had any contact with you. I actually submitted a piece some years before that was accepted but I had to edit it as it was too long and at the time I just let it go. You neither made me, nor helped me. You are so full of yourself.

You say you supported me because my thread was going nowhere. I say to you that my thread was not going nowhere, my thread was a place for me to express my opinion, that was enough for me. I dont need a audience or applause and I dont need your support.

You truly are a piece of work

Oh and one more thing you are right not all Muslims are plotting against the world but many of those in power are and fellow Muslim citizens are either to scared or to loyal to speak out against it.

That makes them followers and supporters.

Jolanda, just as I thought, Jolanda didnt answer the question.

because there is no butcher. its a lie, just like most things she says. she changes things to meet her agenda.

if this is not true jolanda post the butchers name.

Yes Jolanda I agree with Tootsie that you should indeed post the name. you are accusing them of taking over your local butcher shop without one word .
That indeed is something to e concerned about.
If you like I can make it simple for you.
You post the name and i will check to se who does the accreditations for that particular butcher and address your concern.

AFIC have just held an election last week and I am sure you will be happy to know the new president is as Aussie as we are.

Now its possible that the accreditation was granted by one of the other twelve accredited Islamic groups.
You will be doing Australia a great service if this is the case by raising this very important issue.

You are quite right. We need a national Accreditation for Halal Slaughter in Australia and to know who we are dealing with.

I DO know where you are coming from even if you dont. Yes Jolanda there is a fight for Halal Acreditation.
Help us keep Australia safe by posting the name of the butcher so I can look into it and raise it with the Government. As we hold a MOU with AFIC we are quite happy to raise your concerns.
Shes got a good point Tootsie and Rex
Thank You Jolanda it IS a important topic.

Lizzie
I apoligise I did not see your posts earlier as I have been away. Well we certainly could do with a few more Lizzies in Australia I dare say. It is good you are interested just as it is good Jolanda has posted her concerns and I am quick to add Jolandas not stupid.

Lizzie to be honest in my view you are seventy years too late.

Australia has been flooded with cheap imports and the farmers have been betrayed by the Nationals and the others. Do you know where home brand baked beens are from- UAE.

Now for Halal Meat and products we do need a National acreditation. Halal Meat is a billion dollar industry and growing. JAKIM through Maylasia see themselves becoming the hub for Halal Accreditation and marketing from there to the Middle East.

Its REALLY important that we the public ask questions about Halal Meat and products.

The fact is Jolanda is RIGHT to question where it came from and who is pocketing the funds.

The meat Industry is the marfia of the world and I certainly dont just mean Halal Lizzie.

Yes I will sign a petition too that we have one official Halal certifer in Australia to stop any likelyhood of AQIS dealing with unknows.
Look at the AWB situation after all.

If its OK to have a single desk for wheat for years why not Halal So we know who we are supporting?
Quite right Jolanda