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Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 12:04:03 AM
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People against Live Exports. HI. Actually I didn't misunderstand you. What I meant was that Muslims shouldn't mind others eating non Halal meat and the fact that they don't is not something that should be seen as anything more than normal.
Good Muslims are lovely people, very king and giving and just like all Lebanese they love to feed you. I am Spanish married to a Lebanese Catholic, one brother in law is Lebanese Muslim and I have a little niece and nephew. It's such a shame that these good Muslims have to suffer because of the actions of a few that are stuck in their ways, who want to control and hold onto old ways and who's thoughts are extreme. For a long time I have been seeing things that seriously concern me in relation to these types of issues and I cant help but ask questions and air my concerns. Doesn't usually make me many friends. I guess I should be grateful that I was born into a Western Country as with my personality and outspokenness, If I was born anywhere else, I probably would have been killed. I just feel that if the system is set up so that those that have the strongest belief have the most rights rule then we are in trouble as often Muslim people do not tolerate or budge in their ways and the people have alot of fear and they are often too scared to go against their own even if they don’t agree (they have good reason to be scared). We are taught to tolerate regardless of how it impacts on us. This has caused many a problem as one can see with the amount of crime happening today. We need to be smarter. Posted by Jolanda, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 7:23:21 AM
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Posted by freediver, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 10:22:04 AM
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Coming back to what I saw in a WA country town abattoir in the 1970s, when I was there on insurance business. I saw a line of sheep, stepping forward one at a time, and having their throats cut, with no preliminary procedures. The sheep were calm and orderly and showed no signs of stress whatsoever. And they died very quickly. This is what I personally observed and if anyone wants to dispute it, then they can go ahead, but I know what I saw. And no-one at this abattoir tried to mislead me, or feed me any lies either.
Much is being said on this thread about our govt giving in to Muslim expectations. I don't want to be controlled by what I see as unnecessary/ridiculous/superstitious nonsense, regardless of the source, religious or otherwise. But neither am I interested in criticising the beliefs of others, when these beliefs have no bearing on how I am allowed to live my life. I am a Freedom of Choice person, where that choice does not unreasonably adversely affect others, and where the choice is exercised by consenting adults if appropriate. But just think about how many of our freedoms are opposed by the Roman Catholic heirarchy, the Fundamentalist Christians and some of the more extreme factions of other Christian denominations. And just think about how successful some of these control freaks are, and how much power they seem to have over successive so-called democratic Australian governments. So when it comes to being controlled by the demands of religious extremists, apparently some of us see that as OK, providing that the extremists are members of our own favourite control freak organisation. Posted by Rex, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 11:23:02 AM
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Rex
The method you describe of slaughter with "no pre stunning is in fact illegal in this country." All Animals must be pre stunned. We have to have some "control" of animal welfare unless that is you are saying Animals dont count. You dont sound like that type of person to me. It just so happens that I agree with you by large which is why we have a MOU with AFIC Australian Federation Of Islamic Council and Councils. I also have visted Halal plants. It is true a good one does operate in the manner you decribed. Which opens up a whole new debate on which is the kindest method. I am pretty much in your corner to be honest and still doing research. Regarding Halal and Halal Slaughter we have had a great deal of co operation from Muslim Leaders. Far more than from the Australian Government. So yes If its done with the least stress and pain to the animal we agree- Why Not. Freedom of Choice. Indeed/ There are however some real issues with Halal slaughter so we need a National accreditation for Halal Slaughter Here in Australia. We have already done considerable toward this. Without strict laws, guidelines and yes 'control if you like' it is impossible to ensure animals do not suffer or the standard of meat. Here is a good example of people working together.> http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/committee/rrat_ctte/animal_welfare05/submissions/sub72.pdf I think the real Halal Meat issue and Jolanda's point are two different things. Shes saying we have a right to be informed. The information is out there for anybody who wants to do a Google under Halal. Thank you for your interesting comments Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 1:34:02 PM
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People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming. I think that we should have more than just a right to be informed.
We should have been asked. Posted by Jolanda, Tuesday, 20 February 2007 1:57:24 PM
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I can not see why it is a problem for Jolonda to ask questions.
Asking is how we all learn.