lol runner

You do have a strange idea about what goes on in most secular households. We're not quite the dens of iniquity you seem to imagine :-)

Jewely

Most kids requiring foster care are in a bad place to start. They might well get worse as time goes by no matter what we do. Do you have any evidence that Christian couples are worse foster carers than secular ones?

I'm not talking about individual cases. I mean do you have any scientifically valid studies

we have rights?
these would extend beyond belief..[or forced belief]...ie a freedom to believe,...or not...to be seculare or jocular as we chose

im asked to admit to extreemists..[fun-die-mentalists]..have rights
and think their rights are subserviant..to..the rights of the child

children is a relitive term...[there is one father]..who created and sustains..*every life..their living..[there is none who is not a child of the father...not one who is unworthy of recieving his gifts and inheitances..[not one who shall not be accorded the same respect accorded their father]

god is love...any..who teach children*..ANY different...dosnt know they play with fire..if kids can believe in fairytales..or in an ester rabbit..or in old saint nick..then letr each also know the good of life and love..comes from their father

there is much done upon children..god should recant his love for..but he dosnt...god allows..*EVEN the most vile their living..[surelly in this is a sign..for a thinking person..[be they parent or child]

god knows whats in our hearts
god knows the path that led us to be the way we are
god trusts us to live this reality...knowing he has eternity to heal even his most damaged children..he trusts us to reason it all out..if not now..then in eternity...

there are those who would eliminate all good..[all that of god]..seculare is just another word for god free]..and that is the lie

there is untold misery...in living without god
many cant see it till in the end..[of material life]..they realise the god given truth...in the end each will return to god...some quicker...some longer..but each in their own time...in their own way

people do evil..because to these igniorants..vile feels good
in time they will realise it is but a weak shadow..of the true good..due to us all..god that can only come via the all good

its the one unifying force
that holds us together..in eternity
[that we all god the only good wrong]..thus being all sinners
can..yet all become at-one..with the all loving..all living..all good

who alone was the only good
all along

[let thee without sin
not cast the first stone]

“Do you have any evidence that Christian couples are worse foster carers than secular ones?”

Nope – can’t even find any studies on it. But I don’t mind Christian foster parents either.

“Most kids requiring foster care are in a bad place to start. They might well get worse as time goes by no matter what we do.”

Good onya digga.

lentaubman

'You do have a strange idea about what goes on in most secular households. We're not quite the dens of iniquity you seem to imagine :-)'

My experience with secular households is that many are very good and loving while many are very poor. Generalizing is not always helpful. It is usually the secular fundamentalist where things are not so good. It was you who brought up the issue of fundamentalist albeit Islamic and Christian. The people are not the problem it is the flawed philosophical faith of secularism that produces the rotten fruit.

Runner you crazy cross dangler what on earth do you mean many secular households are very poor and produce rotten fruit?

Take it back.

Dear AGIR,

You wrote;

“CSTEELE...you seem to be a tad over judgemental on the issue of my faith and how I express myself here.”

Too bloody right! It is because I see an enormous gap between what both you and runner profess to be your faith and what instead you express in these forums. Passing judgement on that gap has led me to the conclusion I have.

You said; “Calling me "Paulian" however speaks volumes about your idea of what a Christian is.”

I should hope so. I have my idea of what a Christian is and both runner and yourself do not measure up, not even close.

You said “I'm conservative evangelical protestant and fundamentalist. (In the Nicene Creed way) I can't see how anyone can separate Paul from the Lord...but that's between you and He.”

AGIR they were two different people. There is a lot to admire in both but their viewpoints were different, sometimes dramatically. To combine the two or even hold Paul's teachings above those of Jesus as you have a tendency to do is not what the bible is about. It is about the teachings of Jesus with an insight on how a worshipper applied what he derived from the word to his world at that time. We live in a different, more enlightened age and that application must be altered by necessity to be relevant.