pelican,
How do you define a CHILD as homosexual?

You said quote, "What if a child is gay or will be gay as they develop and their awareness of their sexuality dawns?"

Philo you ask the obvious question. The child will no doubt be conditioned in many 'gay' homes.

I would rather know how it could be accomplished here in Australia rather than if. The “If” to me is obvious. Every attempt should be made to place a foster child with a family that is the most compatible to their wellbeing. An attempt should be made to place Hindu children with a Hindu foster family and so on.

What Australian government would realistically end their relationship with Church given the power and influence they have here? The UK may only be dealing with small individual cases from one Council to another. Each council receives funding per child brought into care there. Australia does not have this system.

Here it is not a matter of one family being Christian, Catholic etc or not. Australia maintains organised Church administrated care of children where the foster families might or might not themselves reflect the organizations particular beliefs. These organisations have a well reported history of child abuse that the Australian Government continues to ignore.

A Child is from 0 – 18 in most Australian states. Victoria 0 – 17.

Lilith,
Please quote actual factual statistics on the persentage of child abuse in Church based fostering organisations. My wife worked for Dalmar for several years and ourself fostered dozens of children. Never heard of a single case in those years. Several of the children now grown up still contact her when having problems.

lets get down to the nub of the problem

how many of the parents..giving up their children
are members of..any church or other religeon

or indeed are married..
or have proper morals...
or were raised knowing morality

how many think there is a god

[im not talking about kids here
but the root of the problem]

the answer..should end the debate fairly quickly

bbc has a debate on sunday...blair and some fundimentalist
this godless athiest adgenda..is good at getting god out of your lives

they love courts...[recall that court case re teaching biblical genusis...in science class]..that wasnt about evolution..but its sold like it was

[of course re has no place in science]
evolution is still built on lies

but by selling it aas science..[by accident]
gods creation..is neatly stolen from god what done it

science cant make life
only god can do that

dust you are
to dust you shall return

only your god given life-spirit lives on...

why give kids santa claws ..and the ester rabbit.
.and tooth fairy...and YET..deney them..the truth,..about god?

let kids have..same faith..[get rid of creed by all means]
but let them have the good of god

before you fill them..with scientific..deceptions..
of secular..athiestic-deciete..

AGIR:

I'm not sure that this is a clash of "rights" as such, or even Secular vs. Christian. The interests of a child should always come before any prejudices of a parent. In this case however, it could simply be a bureaucratic stuff up with emotive feelings coming up and giving the wrong impression. Bureaucrats tend to go by the book (council employees) and unfortunately Mr and Mrs Johns spoke without thinking, and spoke rather strongly. Thereby giving the wrong impression to the social workers. What happens next will be up to the courts, I guess. However,with an excellent record of foster care - it is such a shame that the Johns's have now probably thrown away any further chance of continuing in that line of work with the Council of Derby.