Thanks for this, Boaz.

>>Dear Pericles, an exaustive exposition of Christology is well and truly beyond the scope of this debate... and might prove confusing for you :)<<

I always get a warm glow of satisfaction whenever you retreat to your fallback position of arrogant condescension. The implication of your sentence being that only you are privileged to understand the import of your favourite scripture. And the rest of us plebs and peons simply cannot comprehend.

This is the stance you take when you are completely unable to find a credible response to an observation that illustrates your expedient, and occasionally deceitful, handling of the material in question.

In this instance, you add to the smokescreen a little bit of "Boaz' current hobby-horse".

>>I suggest on the contrary that the acceptance of such ideas on your part is testimony to the success of the Marcusian Socialist education program<<

I'm afraid that this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with Fabians, Marcusians, Marxists, or any other of your imaginary bogeymen, Boaz.

As we have already established, this is not a "clash of rights" at all. It has nothing to do with Christianity, and everything to do with upholding the rights of the child to experience the minimum of additional trauma, when they are farmed out to foster-parents.

>>...regarding The Gay/Tranny couple. I do not regard them as 'sub human'.. I regard them as "screwed up" humans.. at the mental level.<<

If you choose to believe that, by definition, gays and transvestites are devoid of the qualities necessary to look after children, then that is entirely your personal belief coming into play. Competent authorities, on the other hand, look more deeply and carefully into the situation, and make decisions that take into account the individuals concerned, are empty of prejudice, and are in the best interest of the child.

Sometimes they get it wrong. But rarely because they have put their own personal agenda ahead of the child's, as you are determined to do.

- They can pay their teachers more so get better ones?

= No wonder you can't face the truth with answers like this one.

Answers don’t end in questions marks Runner.

Todays News, Australian Foster Care. Cash for Kids.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/foster-carer-linked-to-sex-abuse-slipped-past-the-barriers-20101212-18u1w.html
“Life Without Barriers outsources recruitment to independent contractors who are paid to find and assess prospective carers. It pays contractors a weekly fee for each child placed with their carers.
The Supporters of Carers, as the contractors are known, or SOCs, do not need relevant welfare qualifications. The system presents a financial disincentive to report problems because a SOC's income is dependent on the number of children who are placed - and remain - with carers.”

Runner, are you upping the ante on AGiR's bid to have my experience, and that of dozens of others that I personally know of, rendered irrelevant because he thinks that I may be inaccurate in my recollections. Is it my unbelief that causes you to claim further that my 'thinking is distorted'? Resorting to personal denigration is a de facto admission that your objection to my contribution to the debate has little behind it, other than a lack of respect for people who do not believe as you do.

I have Christian friends and family that I care about greatly, and it is reciprocated. We can discuss issues such as this amongst ourselves without either party feeling threatened by the views of the other. The nature of your response to me as an unbeliever is that I must be wrong, simply because I question the motivations and practices of people cloaked in the mantle of Christianity.

There is a greater possibility of distortion of one's thinking in being willing to blindly accept what you are told, without any supporting evidence; than there is in placing reliance on what one experiences, as a basis for forming an opinion

Dear Pericles a

//fallback position of arrogant condescension//

Not at all Pericles. The subject of Christology is not a small one. Volumes have been written on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christology

Now honestly.. could I even begin to include even a summary of that in 350 words ? Cut a bloke a little slack without the name calling please.
It is simply stating the obvious to suggest that such an uninclusive summary if any, would be confusing because it could not cover all the ground.

Please take a moment to read the following:

Isiah 53 (whole chapter) but to obtain the full context for that chapter you need to read Isaiah 39 to 53.

Phillipians 2:1-11

and Hebrews chapter 1

They will give you a fairly accurate picture of 'who' Jesus was.

Paul? I should have said "his EXperience" was not like most of us, but as to being just like you and me.. with the normal human limitations.. yes, he was.

JEWELLY that privatization of fostering is MEGA scary!

Regarding abuse at places as mentioned.... by all means BLAME the relevant administrative bodies (if they covered up) and BLAME the perpetrators.. blame them to hell if it makes you happy...you might find that the Lord Jesus TOTALLY agrees with you.
Mark 9:42

But one thing no-one should do.. Blame the Lord himself.

AGiR:”JEWELLY that privatization of fostering is MEGA scary!
Regarding abuse at places as mentioned.... by all means BLAME the relevant administrative bodies (if they covered up) and BLAME the perpetrators.. blame them to hell if it makes you happy...you might find that the Lord Jesus TOTALLY agrees with you.
Mark 9:42”

I hope he would. The company “Life Without Barriers” mentioned was set up by business people and it is them (who I think have 35% of the foster market) and church run orgs pushing for more privatizing of fostercare.

I blame everyone, the adults that abuse children, the government for allowing it to continue along with the churches who promote a system that profits from failing the children.

This isn’t new; it has been run this way for many generations in Australia but recently has been rapidly expanding. People don’t know about it because of the privacy laws and policies protecting all the adults while supposedly intended to protect children.

For a story to leak out is rare and usually the media can’t use a name or a face of an abused child so the stories lack interest.